Episode 89, Dostoevsky's Notes from Underground (Part V - Further Analysis and Discussion)
The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast
Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, and Rose de Castellane
4.8 • 612 Ratings
🗓️ 27 December 2020
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
Introduction
I write this in secret, hoping that these notes be passed on outside Russia. The author of the diary and the diary itself may, of course, be imaginary. Nevertheless, it is clear that such persons as the Underground Man do exist in our society.
We have tried to expose him to the public but so far there has been no luck. If only people knew of the power of the Underground. He is one of the representatives of a generation still living, a generation waiting patiently for the right moment. His notes were discovered long after his passing, written on tatty paper in cheap ink, covered in cigarette burns and dust….
Don't listen to the ants who would rather slave over the anthill than accept the truth. These notes are yours now, spread them to every corner of the globe. Long live the Underground!
Contents
Part I. The Life of Fyodor Dostoevsky
Part II. Underground
Part III. Apropos of the Wet Snow
Part IV. Body and Blood
Part V. Further Analysis and Discussion
Links
Notes from Underground, Dostoevsky (pdf).
Teaching Nineteenth-Century Russian Literature (book).
Dostoevsky: A Writer in His Time (Joseph Frank).
The Case against Rational Egoism in Dostoevsky's Notes from Underground, James P. Scanlan (paper).
Symbolism of Rats and Mice in Dostoevsky's Notes from Underground, Michael Haltresht (paper).
Notes from Underground, Dostoevsky - Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky (book).
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, scicast. |
| 0:08.6 | Part five, further analyses and discussion. So we've read notes from underground. We've given it a wonderful red edition. We've also had the life of Dostoyevsky. We've held back with if any analysis whatsoever. So we're going to give some of our evaluation, draw some links in this section as well, |
| 0:40.0 | and generally give our thoughts about what we thought about the whole Dostoevsky experience. |
| 0:45.9 | Mr. Rale-Marley, does there anything you want to get off your chest at this stage of the show? |
| 0:49.7 | Yeah, let's go for it. |
| 0:51.2 | So I think that it's quite interesting reading this novel now, |
| 1:12.3 | because I think the influence of this novel is palpable, that it has influenced so many other types of, well, we've done lots of existentialism, right? And I'm sure that when we were reading through this, we had lots of like, oh, this reminds me of what Kirkagar said about the blah, blah, blah, or when John Paul Sartre said, the nausea and zzzzzar, so it's quite interesting kind of going back to the original in a sense because you're not like you're not going like oh this is a |
| 1:16.2 | fresh exciting original idea quite the opposite but i think we must remember that when it was first |
| 1:20.9 | published this really tower dark depressing novel about a horrible person as an anti-hero. |
| 1:31.6 | And one of the things I find quite fascinating about the novel itself is that I've read some other Dostoevsky works that I think are much richer in the terms of getting to spend |
| 1:35.2 | time with characters and really seeing them grow and change. |
| 1:37.9 | But what I quite like about notes from underground is I think that the reader of the book |
| 1:42.2 | can bring a lot to it in the sense. |
| 1:45.4 | And what does that mean? |
| 1:46.2 | It sounds like a bit of a wishy-washy thing to say. |
| 1:48.2 | So if you take this book and put it in different time zones and context, |
| 1:51.6 | you will get different people responding to it in quite interesting ways. |
| 1:55.9 | So, for example, one thing that I find quite interesting is that, |
| 1:59.9 | especially in the kind of the 1960s and 70s, there was this big focus on interesting is that especially in the kind of the |
| 2:01.1 | 1960s and 70s, there was this big focus on the idea that one of the key themes within |
| 2:05.2 | the scholarship of the novel was loneliness. Right. That the underground man is incredibly |
| 2:09.0 | lonely. Now, he's lonely because he pretty much is horrible and pushes everybody away from |
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