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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 870: Douglas Williams, OCD and Scrupulosity

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.7 • 855 Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

My friend Douglas Williams (President of the Real OCD Club and the Un Alone Club at BYU; dual-major at BYU, RM, MTC Teacher) joins us to share his journey with OCD and scrupulosity: Understanding, managing, and accepting intrusive thoughts—not a sign of worthiness Thoughts don’t have anything to do with our character Undiagnosed scrupulosity entering mission field (repeated confessions to Stake President) Difficult start to mission, medication, things got better (still misdiagnosed) Coming home from mission, going off medication, and crashing Finally got a correct diagnosis—path to healing Importance of Exposure and Response Prevention Therapy Ego-syntonic thoughts (line up with values) and ego-dystonic thoughts (don’t line up with values)—super powerful distinction Invitation to join the Real OCD Club at BYU (focused on OCD) Invitation to join Un-Alone Club at BYU (focused on solving porn use) If you are working to understand and navigate OCD in yourself or help others, Douglas’ podcast will help you. Douglas—who has a gift of great communication—does an excellent job of helping us all better understand OCD/Scrupulosity and how to solve these mental health challenges. Links: Real OCD Club at BYU on Instagram: @readocdblub Un Alone Club at BYU on Instagram: @un.alone.byu

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.

0:09.0

My guest on today's podcast is a returning guest.

0:11.9

I'm going to share his journey with OCD and Scrupulosity.

0:15.9

My friend Douglas Williams, welcome to the podcast, Douglas.

0:19.5

Thank you.

0:20.1

Glad to be here.

0:21.6

Doug is present of two clubs at BYU, and he's also a double major. We'll get to that in a second.

0:28.5

Maybe you're first, maybe I'll have twins to start off the bat. Just keep the pattern going, but...

0:33.3

I am a twin, so twos are in my makeup.

0:39.1

That is funny.

0:40.6

He was on episode 861 with three other fine BYU students talking about a club at

0:47.4

at BYU to help solve porn news called Unalone, BYU.

0:51.3

You can check out that podcast if you like to learn more.

0:53.8

That's episode 861. Today we're going that podcast if you like to learn more. That's up at 861.

0:56.2

Today we're going to talk about his work at a club at BYU called Real OCD Club. That's the

1:02.3

Instagram account is just Real OCD Club. That's the Real OCD Club at BYU. And it's a club I

1:09.5

became aware of maybe five, eight years ago, and occasionally a guest

1:12.8

will come on and share their story.

1:14.4

And we haven't had one for quite a while.

1:16.8

So I met Doug a month ago, and he mentioned scrupulosity.

1:20.8

I just thought I'd love to have you share your story.

1:24.0

Doug is a double major.

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