Hello, I'm Adrian Dobb.

And I'm We're Don again.

And whether we like it or not, we're in bed with the right.

So, Adrian, today we are joined by somebody I admire so much.

Mr. Patrick Blanchfield of our great sister show, ordinary

unhappiness, the psychoanalysis podcast that has like totally changed the way I see the world.

Patrick, thank you so much for being here. Well, it's delightful to be here and the feelings of

affection are very mutual. I've been looking forward to doing something like this for a long time. The occasion notwithstanding, I mean, I'm always happy to talk Epstein.

It's a wonderful to spend time with you both. It is kind of embarrassing because I did send

Patrick this email. I was like, hey, you know what made me think of you? Which is like the renewal

of the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, which is such a rich and fraught text and

also something that revolves around, you know, violence against children, of which, you know,

Patrick is, I think, one of our strongest and most compelling thinkers. But I do think that is probably a good

moment for us to pause and note that this is going to be kind of a heavy episode. This is the kind of

thing that we should probably provide a content note for because we are talking a lot about

sexual violence, particularly by adult men against teenage girls and the various ways that fears about

pedophilia, as well as actually existing pedophilia, are weaponized. So it's going to be a rough one.

Yeah, we should say that we've talked about much more anodyne topics for your potential debut

on In Bed with the Right, and I'm sorry that this

had to be it. At the same time, I also immediately thought I want to hear Patrick explain this to me,

not just because you've written very movingly on these very issues that are concerned here,

but also as more as alluding to the mode of return, right? I feel like a lot of people have said to me,

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