Episode 868: Bruce Butcher, Lost Son Taylor to Suicide, God’s Love/Hope For All of Us

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.7 • 855 Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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** This episode talks about suicide. If you are suicidal, please call/text chat 988 ** My friend Bruce Butcher (late 50s, married father of three, active LDS) joins us in a powerful episode to share the following: Loving and accepting people in his life who are no longer in the Church “We don’t punish a man for his beliefs” Losing his wonderful son Taylor to suicide in June 2024 Taylor’s prayer “bless the sick and sad, help us to be the best versions of ourselves” Painful doctrine the Church used to teach about suicide—led to no hope Love of a mother is the most powerful force on earth Love of our Heavenly Mother is the most powerful force in heaven—she isn’t going to cut off any of Her children Excluding people is not Christ’s doctrine David Archuleta—“I’m still a fan” Being a cafeteria Mormon My apology to my LGBTQ friends I deeply loved listening to and learning from Bruce. If you are looking for more hope in your life, be more like Jesus, and love/accept people walking different roads, please listen to and share Bruce’s podcast. Thank you, Bruce, for being on the podcast. You are a good man—helping so many. I’m so sorry your good son Taylor is gone. Love Taylor's heart as reflected in the words of his prayer.

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0:00.0	Hello, welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.
0:09.9	My guest on today's podcast is kind of a long-term friend over at least the last couple years I've really become aware of him as my friend Bruce Butcher.
0:19.0	Welcome to the podcast, Bruce.
0:21.2	Thank you so much. It's so good to be here with you.
0:24.9	Bruce messaged me six months ago and said you ought to have Stephanie Roach on the podcast.
0:31.4	She's a parent with special needs children and that became episode 855.
0:36.6	But Stephanie Roach told me, well, you really ought to
0:38.9	Bruce Butcher on the podcast. And I thought about that and put that in my podcast queue and
0:46.0	finally we're getting around to having Bruce on the podcast. I listened to Bruce on another
0:51.9	platform inside out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilkes. I was driving across
0:58.0	a few states and binged about five episodes of that awesome podcast. And one of those was
1:04.5	your story, Bruce. And I was so glad I listened to that. And Bruce will probably cover some of the same content from that podcast.
1:13.9	He will talk about, it's kind of a trigger warning, a lot of podcasts, these episodes
1:18.9	we talk about suicide.
1:20.4	And Bruce is going to talk about his son Taylor, who died by suicide June 10th of 2024.
1:27.9	Taylor would be 21 this year.
1:30.6	And he's going to talk about, you know, sort of his worst nightmare becoming a reality.
1:36.1	And so if you've lost someone to suicide or you're suicidal, perhaps the words Bruce will share will help you.
1:45.5	Bruce is also going to talk about his journey with the church.
1:48.9	He calls himself a cafeteria, Latter-day Saint, Cafeteria Mormon.
1:52.7	I use those words interchangeably.
1:54.3	And just his journey to stay in the church and things that work for him and things that don't.
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