Episode 858: Dr. Ben Bailey, Psychologist and student of Nonviolent Communication (NVC)

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.7 • 855 Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2026

⏱️ 81 minutes

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My friend Dr. Ben Bailey (PhD from BYU in Psychology currently working at UVU as a Mental Health Therapist) joins us to talk about things close to his heart and work as a therapist to bring more hope and understanding, reduce divisiveness, and bring us together as the same human family including: Nonviolent Communication (NVC) as a framework to become a better peacemaker Moving from judgmental thinking into a language of feelings and needs Understanding differences in others by understanding their needs How to talk across difference with people who have different opinions than us about the rights of LGBTQ individuals Distinguishing empathy from agreement (understanding someone does not require endorsing their beliefs) Prioritizing safety before connection A more compassion focused approach to understanding pornography use Normalizing and having a better approach to doubt Thank you, Ben, for being on the podcast. I learned so much from you on how to feel better about ourselves and bring us together as the same human family. I also appreciate your work as a therapist and all you are doing to love, help, and give hope to others. Links: NVC Book: https://nonviolentcommunication.com/product/nvc/ Center For Nonviolent Communication: https://www.cnvc.org/ The Return of the Prodigal Son: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/122877/the-return-of-the-prodigal-son-by-henri-jm-nouwen/ My Music Links: https://linktr.ee/benbaileymusic

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0:00.0	Hello, welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.
0:10.0	My guest on today's podcast, I'm really excited to have him on the podcast is my friend Ben Bailey.
0:16.2	Welcome to the podcast, Ben.
0:18.8	Yeah, thanks, Richard.
0:21.4	I've admired you for a long time, too, and really appreciate good your podcast is done.
0:27.3	I think that's nothing more persuasive than a story.
0:30.2	So, yeah, I mean, as well as all your guests who are, I think, just so incredibly brave,
0:37.2	very appreciative of them and their
0:39.7	stories and how it's impacted me and my own perceptions. So, yeah, thanks. Thanks. You're right.
0:47.4	The guests are brave. Just a little bit about Ben. Ben is a mental health therapist at UVU. He's part of a group, maybe running a group
0:58.1	of about 29 therapists at Utah Valley University that's in Utah County, Utah for the students at UVU.
1:06.8	I've noticed on Ben's social media, he's really great at supporting LGBTQ people, trans people.
1:12.6	And I asked him about, he says about 20% of his clients are LGBTQ.
1:17.6	So I think that's going to be a big focus of what Ben will share, a part of a focus to supporting LGBTQ people.
1:24.6	Ben's been there since 2019.
1:26.6	He got a bachelor's degree in English from the University of
1:29.8	Utah. I'm skipping a degree along the way. You can come back to it if you want to, but he got a PhD
1:35.5	in psychology from BYU in 2018. So he's actually Dr. Ben Bailey. Respect for getting a PhD. That's a huge
1:43.8	accomplishment. He's also a musician. That's a huge accomplishment. He's also a musician.
1:47.3	He's a folk singer and he's producing music and he will link to his channel and the show
1:53.0	notes if you'd like to check that part out about Ben. Ben and his wife Liz are the parent of
2:00.0	one kiddo. They've been together, married for about 10,
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