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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 852: Andy Newman—Episode Two—Mixed Faith Marriages

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8839 Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

*Note: This episode is about my goal to reduce the tension between those who stay in the Church and those who leave** My friend Andy Newman (married father of three, Ex-Mormon, therapist, LGBTQ ally, bridge builder) join us to discuss: Understanding/supporting your spouse that left the church Understanding/supporting your spouse that stays in the church What helps couple stay strong Shares values over shared beliefs The Gottman Method A,C,T,S Andy’s work is more than theoretical—as he talks “in-real-life” about how this works in their marriage with examples of how he supports his wife and three daughters in their church attendance (including giving a talk at a daughter’s baptism) and the peace he has found with people he loves holding different beliefs. Andy mentions the work of Allan and Kattie Mount and their podcast “Marriage on a Tightrope”. Thank you, Andy, for bringing your clinical expertise and own personal journey to help those in a mixed-faith marriage. I learned so much from you and appreciate your voice and healing work in our community. You are a good man—glad to have you on the podcast! Links: Psychology today: www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/andy-newman-gilbert-az/974441 IG: www.instagram.com/andynewmanlpc/ TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@deconstruction_therapy Twitter: @andynewmanlpc Epsiode One: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-846-andy-newman-episode-one/id1347971725?i=1000734877746

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.

0:09.1

My guest on today's podcast is a returning guest. He did episode one. Andy Newman, his return for episode two. Welcome to the podcast, Andy.

0:20.9

It is so good to be back.

0:22.4

Thanks for having me again, Richard.

0:24.4

The sequel is never as good as the original, but I'll do my best.

0:27.5

I think it'll be good.

0:29.4

Andy was on episode 846.

0:31.8

We'll link to that in the show notes.

0:33.2

He talks about his shame tour as a young LDS man growing up in the church working through

0:38.6

stuff, talks about being an LGBTQ ally, really moving story.

0:43.3

He talks about leaving the church.

0:45.9

And we do podcasts with people that leave the church because one of our goals, Andy, out of

0:50.5

the church and me in the church, is to build bridges of understanding between people that stay and people that leave.

0:57.8

This podcast is going to focus on mixed-faith marriages.

1:01.5

Andy is in a mixed-faith marriage.

1:03.4

His wife is active in the church, and he is going to talk about, and he professionally works in this space as a therapist.

1:12.1

I think a fair amount of his work is in this space as well as helping LGBTQ people. He's going to talk about understanding

1:17.8

your spouse that left. He's going to talk about understanding your spouse that stays. So if you're

1:23.9

in a mixed faith marriage or have friends there in a mixed faith marriage,

1:32.0

our joint hope is the things Andy shares from his personal experience as well as his clinical and academic training will be helpful to you.

1:35.6

I think Andy is going to talk about, you know, a baptism, his oldest daughter, I believe, was baptized

1:41.8

recently, and he's going to talk about how that worked out in his family. He obviously wasn't there in the water with baptizing his daughter,

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