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🗓️ 14 December 2025
⏱️ 59 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler. |
| 0:09.1 | My guest on today's podcast is a returning guest. He did episode one. Andy Newman, his return for episode two. Welcome to the podcast, Andy. |
| 0:20.9 | It is so good to be back. |
| 0:22.4 | Thanks for having me again, Richard. |
| 0:24.4 | The sequel is never as good as the original, but I'll do my best. |
| 0:27.5 | I think it'll be good. |
| 0:29.4 | Andy was on episode 846. |
| 0:31.8 | We'll link to that in the show notes. |
| 0:33.2 | He talks about his shame tour as a young LDS man growing up in the church working through |
| 0:38.6 | stuff, talks about being an LGBTQ ally, really moving story. |
| 0:43.3 | He talks about leaving the church. |
| 0:45.9 | And we do podcasts with people that leave the church because one of our goals, Andy, out of |
| 0:50.5 | the church and me in the church, is to build bridges of understanding between people that stay and people that leave. |
| 0:57.8 | This podcast is going to focus on mixed-faith marriages. |
| 1:01.5 | Andy is in a mixed-faith marriage. |
| 1:03.4 | His wife is active in the church, and he is going to talk about, and he professionally works in this space as a therapist. |
| 1:12.1 | I think a fair amount of his work is in this space as well as helping LGBTQ people. He's going to talk about understanding |
| 1:17.8 | your spouse that left. He's going to talk about understanding your spouse that stays. So if you're |
| 1:23.9 | in a mixed faith marriage or have friends there in a mixed faith marriage, |
| 1:32.0 | our joint hope is the things Andy shares from his personal experience as well as his clinical and academic training will be helpful to you. |
| 1:35.6 | I think Andy is going to talk about, you know, a baptism, his oldest daughter, I believe, was baptized |
| 1:41.8 | recently, and he's going to talk about how that worked out in his family. He obviously wasn't there in the water with baptizing his daughter, |
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