Episode 851: Tariff Talk
The Editors
National Review
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🗓️ 23 February 2026
⏱️ 79 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The tariffs are dead. |
| 0:17.6 | Long live the tariffs. |
| 0:19.1 | Plus, will there be a new Iran deal? |
| 0:21.2 | We'll discuss all this and more on this edition of the editors. I'm Rich Lowry, and I'm joined, as always, by the right, Honorable Charles, C.W. Cook, the good neighbor, Noah Rothman, and the notorious MbD. Michael Brendan Doherty, you are, of course, listening to a National Review podcast. Our sponsors this episode are Donors Trust and Vare, more about both of them in due course. |
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| 0:55.0 | anything. So MBD, big Supreme Court ruling end the last week. We didn't pick it up in the last |
| 1:01.8 | ep last week. So we're recording a little early here on Monday morning 6'3 decision against Trump's tariffs on statutory grounds that IEPA does not contain |
| 1:15.8 | the language that justifies the sweeping power that the president assumed to impose |
| 1:21.5 | terrorists pretty much on every country in the world. What do you make of it? |
| 1:26.7 | Yeah, I mean, it's a huge ruling. It's a huge, I mean, first of all, it's a very huge attempt by the court to push the executive back into its box and possibly to nudge Congress to take up its own role. |
| 1:44.1 | Obviously, as a conservative, I was very much paying attention to the split among the |
| 1:48.2 | conservative justices, which was right down the middle, |
| 1:52.4 | where you had Alito, Thomas, and Kavanaugh on the dissent against the president. |
| 2:00.3 | And I read, I read Kavanaugh on the dissent against the president. And I read, um, I read Kavanaugh's side first last week. |
| 2:07.6 | This is just very curious. |
| 2:09.3 | And I, you know, this is one of those things where I have to say, I'm not a lawyer. |
| 2:14.1 | So this is a little bit above my pay grade. |
| 2:16.7 | But at first I found him pretty convincing,, you know, there's something crazy about |
| 2:22.0 | a statute that would let the president impose an embargo on trade, foreign trade, |
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