Episode 836: McArthur Krishna and Anne Pimentel, New Book, “Changemakers: Women Who Bolding Built Zion”

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Richard Ostler

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4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 16 June 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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My friends McArthur Krishna and Anne Pimentel (authors, BYU grads, advocates for those on the margins) join us to talk about their important new book (at Deseret Book and Amazon) called “Changemakers: Women Who Bolding Built Zion” The podcast/book covers important topics: How revelation is “scattered” How women led changing the Church Institution with Primary and Relief Society How most of the change we can impact is in our local area around culture Anne’s racial awakening—and her desire to help people of other races feel belonging The “Back Yard Principle” Supporting those who leave the church Why McArthur and Anne (knowing all the complicated issues) stay in the Church Why McArthur hopes the Church her daughters are raised in is different than the Church she was raised in—and how we should embrace change Importance of personal authority If you are looking to improve church culture to better create Zion so more feel welcome, I encourage you to read/share this book. It has real-life stories and perspectives/principles to help each of us. I wish I had read a book like this a long time ago. I encourage everyone to listen to the podcast, read the book—and share with others. Thank you, McArthur and Anne, for your needed work in our community. Honored to have you on the podcast! Links: Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/1560855185 Deseret Book: www.deseretbook.com/product/6085124.html McArthur IG: @mcarthurkrishna_creates McArthur FB: www.facebook.com/mcarthur.mcarthurfreeranger Heavenly Mother Matters IG: @heavenlymothermatters Anne IG: @the.vision.beautiful James Jones Online Course: btbacademy.thinkific.com/courses/lds-anti-racism-101-abandoning-attitudes-and-actions-of-prejudice Chapter on How We Should Treat People Who Leave the Church: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zkupzyte3lqqtxla6q9y1/Chapter-4-How-Should-We-Treat-Those-Who-Leave-the-Church.pdf?rlkey=w00hdkyywo5m9dyg1uwscqbxm&dl=0

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0:00.0	Hello, welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.
0:09.9	On our podcast today, we have two women authors that have co-wrote, co-written a book called Change Makers,
0:18.2	Women Who Boldly Built Zion. What a cool title for a book and what needed work.
0:24.1	And those authors are MacArthur Krishna and Ann Pimettel. Welcome to the podcast.
0:31.8	Thank you. Thank you for having us. You're such a changemaker yourself. This is the perfect
0:36.2	dovetelling of someone who is a changemaker yourself. This is the perfect dove-telling of someone who is a
0:40.0	change-maker celebrating the change-making book. So thank you for that. Let me just read a little bit
0:46.4	about the book. The book is a powerful and much-needed affirmation, especially in a moment where
0:52.4	women are quietly wondering if they fit through stories
0:56.1	and the scripture and global history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint.
1:00.4	It highlights women who ideas, faith, and courage have helped shape the church in a meaningful
1:06.0	and lasting way.
1:07.8	The book is accessible to children, beautiful to look at and meaningful for readers of all
1:12.0	ages. Both of these women, MacArthur has written over 20 books, including a girl's guide
1:20.0	to Heavenly Mother and girls who choose God's series. And is the founder, a co-founder of Meeting House
1:26.5	Mosaic, an organization working to diversify Christian art and amplify voices that sometimes go unheard in our faith community.
1:37.4	And so I just think this is a terrific book, and I'm honored to have these women on the podcast.
1:43.0	MacArthur is joining us from
1:44.4	her home in Oregon. She may have been on just the prior episode or two with other women
1:50.7	authors. She has three girls and Ann is joining us from her home in Utah. She is the mother of
1:57.8	four boys. Anne has a degree from BYU in marriage and family human development,
2:04.6	and MacArthur has an undergraduate degree from BYU and a master's in communication.
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