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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 835: Shirley Washenko and Sage Williams, New Book: “Healing after Sexual Abuse”

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8839 Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

My friends Shirley Washenko (sexual abuse survivor/advocate) and Sage Williams (MSc, RN, long-time advocate) joins us to talk about their new, groundbreaking and needed book (published by Deseret Book) called “Healing after Sexual Abuse, A Latter-day Saint Perspective”. The book has these powerful chapters: 1) Establishing Identity 2) Uncovering Wounds 3) Embracing Agency 4) Differentiating Healing Journeys 5) Responding to Anger with Integrity 6) The Core: Connection 7) It Takes “an Angel” to Speak the Truth 8) Grief: Linking, Past Present, and Future 9) Forgiveness in a New Light 10) The Healing Journey This is one of the finest podcasts we’ve done on healing after sexual abuse. Shirley and Sage (from their respective experiences) bring new, impactful, and practical insights to help heal from sexual abuse. The book will help sexual abuse survivors and also the rest of us as we learn better tools to help them. I encourage everyone to listen to the podcast, read the book—and share with others. Thank you, Shirley and Sage, for your life-saving work to bring hope and healing. You are two of my heroes. Honored to have you on the podcast! Links: Web Site: www.healingaftersexualabuse.com/ Deseret Book: www.deseretbook.com/product/P6078641.html Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/1639934219

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.

0:09.2

My guests on today's podcasts are two brave women talking about their new book at Desert

0:14.1

Book. The name of the book is Healing After Sexual Abuse, a Latter-day Saint perspective,

0:20.4

and the authors who are on the podcast are my new friends, Shirley.

0:24.6

Wanchico, did I say that right, Shirley?

0:27.9

Waschenko.

0:28.7

Washenko.

0:29.4

Washenko.

0:29.6

Yes.

0:31.3

Washenko.

0:32.0

We didn't practice that before we went live.

0:34.4

And Sage Williams, welcome to the podcast. you so much we're eager to be here

0:42.2

this is a subject listeners that we've tried to address at times on this podcast um sexual assault

0:50.0

sexual abuse survivors have stepped forward and share their stories. On our website, listen, learn, and love, you can find an index of all of our podcasts,

1:00.0

and there is a section for abuse survivors.

1:03.1

If you want to listen to more stories, the most recent we did was a brave woman, Heather Prince, 784,

1:10.4

talks about being a sexual assault survivor in the

1:12.9

middle of a criminal and legal trier with Dr. Broadbent in Utah County. But let me introduce our

1:19.6

guests for today. Let me start with Shirley Woshenko, who lives in Pennsylvania and has two kids.

1:30.4

I'm just going to look at the book because there's a wonderful section at the end.

1:34.5

This is just a little bit about their bio.

1:38.0

She is a married mother of two, as I may have mentioned.

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