Episode 832: Lilly MacKenzie, Transgender BYU Student

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 24 May 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

My friend Lilly MacKenzie (who was on Episode 765) joins us to update listeners on her journey—including her spiritual journey (which includes more about her purpose, her belief in the Church, and her mission to help others). Lilly also talks about how the August 2024 transgender handbooks updates negatively impacted her—and how/why she continues to be a deeply committed and believing Latter-day Saint. She also talks about the support/support groups that help her. And she talks about how her emotional health is so much better since transitioning. Thank you, Lilly, for being on the podcast. You are brave. You are helping so many. Links: June 2025 Gather Conference: www.gather-conference.com/ Lilly’s earlier episode (765): podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-765-lilly-mackenzie-transgender-latter-day/id1347971725?i=1000661805297

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0:00.0	Hello, welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.
0:09.4	I'm really excited to have my friend Lily McKenzie back on the podcast.
0:14.6	She was on not too long ago, Episode 765.
0:19.8	She's a BYU student. She's a BYU student.
0:21.6	She's a computer engineering major.
0:25.0	She kind of told me before we went live, she got some really good grades.
0:28.5	So congratulations, Lily.
0:30.0	That's a huge accomplishment.
0:32.0	She's transgender.
0:33.3	So she's a transgender, Latter-day Saint.
0:36.5	A woman at BYU, her pronouns are, she, her,
0:40.2	and she came on in July, roughly July of 2024.
0:44.4	And that was right before the updated handbook policy statements that impacted transgender
0:50.5	Latter-day Saints.
0:51.4	So Lily's been navigating that.
0:55.4	And I'm just glad she's back on the podcast.
0:58.0	We love hearing from transgender Latter-day Saints,
1:01.4	and they're courage to share their stories to help us better support good people like Lily.
1:06.8	So I'm really glad you're back on the podcast, Lily.
1:10.6	Thank you, Richard.
1:11.9	And we will turn it over to you to update our listeners, your listeners on your story.
1:18.6	Okay. Well, last time it was just my general story, more on the secular side.
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