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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 760: Glen “Mateo” Bass; Bisexual Latter-day Saint, Rebaptized 2024, Sharing Hope

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8839 Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2024

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

**This podcast mentions suicide. If you are suicidal, please call/text chat 988** My friend Glen Bass (father of two, lives in Utah County, left church 2018, rebaptized 2024, divorced after 15 years of marriage) joins us to share his story. Glen talks about his early years figuring out he is not 100% heterosexual. Glen talks about his mission and being disfellowshipped for falling in love with his companion/physical relationship. Glen talks about navigating the pain/shame/humiliation of that experience and the positive people in his life that kept him going. Glen talks about returning to full fellowship and finding his wife (including opening up about his SSA during their courtship). Glen talks about how that married ultimately ended (still on good terms) and how he is moving forward. Glen talks about leaving shame, self-loathing and finding peace, joy and happiness in the Gospel of Jesus Christ and his decision to be rebaptized in March 2024. Glen also shares a powerful insight while suicidal on the impact of his possible suicide on his daughter—one of the most powerful segments of any podcast we’ve done. Glen talks about how to forgive the Church/Church culture for painful experiences consistent with his desire to move forward in the Church. I was so moved by the maturity, courage, vulnerability, hope and perspective in Glen’s story. Honored to have him on the podcast. You are a good man my friend Glen!

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.

0:09.8

My guest on our podcast today, joining me from his home in Utah County is my friend, Glenn Bass.

0:18.1

Welcome to the podcast, Glenn.

0:20.4

Thank you, Richard. Happy to be here.

0:22.8

And tell our listeners the other name people may know you by.

0:27.3

So if you're my friend on Facebook or Instagram, you might know me as Mateo,

0:32.3

or if you see me at Vasa Gym in the mornings in Utah County where I work out, you would know me by that name as

0:39.2

well. So there you go. You may know Glenn is Mateo. I'm going to call them mostly Glenn in the

0:46.2

podcast, but if you're familiar with Mateo, Bass, that's also who we're interviewing. Just to give our

0:53.5

listeners a little overview,

0:55.3

Glenn is in his 40s. He was married for 15 years, now divorced, as two kids, is on good terms

1:04.2

with his former wife. He resigned from the church in 2018.

1:16.6

He identifies as a bisexual Latter-day Saint, but then was baptized, re-baptized,

1:20.0

is I guess the right term in 2024, just a few months ago.

1:28.9

He also has an experience on his mission where he was sent home, received some church discipline,

1:31.6

and may talk about that, reinstated.

1:38.9

So he's been navigating his life as a bisexual Latter-day saint, at times full of shame and self-loathing and feelings that God didn't love him.

1:43.3

But it's in such a great spot now that, you know,

1:46.6

I just thought it would be great for him to be on the podcast

1:49.3

to help all of us that feel shame or self-loathing

1:52.9

or could God possibly love me.

1:57.4

I'm going to read something that Glenn put on his Facebook,

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