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The Lawfare Podcast

Episode #76: John Carlin on "State-Sponsored Cyber Theft"

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2014

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

John Carlin, the Assistant Attorney General for National Security at the Department of Justice, spoke at Brookings this week on “Defending our Nation by Prosecuting State-Sponsored Cyber Theft.”

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In fact, we are aware of no nation in the world that publicly states

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that theft of information for commercial gain is acceptable.

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Even in this case, China has not attempted to justify the allegations.

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Instead, they deny them.

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And this has been a consistent response.

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A little over a year ago, the Chinese government flatly denied reports

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that the unit 61398 was hacking U.S. companies.

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A spokesman for China's Ministry of National Defense said,

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Chinese military forces have never supported any hacking activities.

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China also challenged United States to present hard evidence,

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evidence that could stand up in court, that cyber attacks against American targets

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are connected to the Chinese military.

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Well, we did. And the response?

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Hours after Monday's announcement, the Chinese foreign ministry called the accusations

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purely fictitious, extremely absurd.

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I'm Rithika Singh, and this is the LawFair podcast, May 24, 2014.

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