Episode #75--A Conversation with Herb Lin About Cybersecurity
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 16 May 2014
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
“At the Nexus of Public Policy and Cybersecurity: Some Basic Concepts and Issues.”
That’s the title of a new report co-edited by Herb Lin, chief scientist at National Research Council’s Computer Science and Telecommunications Board. This week, Lin sat down with our own Ben Wittes. Their engaging discussion, together with the report itself, offers an excellent primer on the day's most pressing cyber concerns---and strongly suggests that policymakers haven’t yet begun to address them with sufficient urgency. Enjoy.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:28.9 | We want to be innovative. |
| 0:38.6 | We want to have better and better products and services with more products, different |
| 0:43.8 | products and so on. |
| 0:46.4 | The problem is that when you are in the business of trying to innovate a new product or service, |
| 0:53.6 | their focus understandably is trying to get the service or product to work and anything |
| 0:59.9 | that you do that takes away from that goal, delasional. |
| 1:04.0 | There's a time to market issue and since the first guy in a particular space is often |
| 1:09.7 | the most successful, there's a high pressure to go fast. |
| 1:13.8 | So, and nobody has yet figured out how to build security into a product and do it fast |
| 1:20.0 | at the same time. |
| 1:21.9 | I'm Wells Bennett and this is the LawFair podcast, May 17, 2014. |
| 1:27.9 | You just heard the voice of Herb Lynn. |
| 1:29.8 | He's chief scientist at the computer science and telecommunications board, itself a unit |
| 1:34.8 | of the National Research Council at the National Academies. |
| 1:38.4 | Lynn's expertise is broad and deep and extends among many other things to cyber matters. |
| 1:43.5 | In particular, he's helped to edit a recent leadership report entitled, at the Nexus |
| 1:47.2 | of Public Policy and Cybersecurity. |
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