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I'm Matthew.

And I'm Molly.

And this is Spill Milk, the show where we cook something delicious, eat it all, and you can't have any. Today, we're talking about Tilderin, which is not what we're, we're not eating any. We haven't eaten any of it. No. This was suggested by listener Emily. Do you remember, like, when was the last time we did a non-food main feed episode? Because I know years ago we did toothpaste and shampoo which I think was the

same episode and that was wasn't that a bonus episode I think that I think it may have been a

main I don't know now that you say that it does sound like a bonus I know we've done it before

okay well I have no idea okay when the last time was that we did an episode on something that you can't actually eat.

I mean, you can eat anything if you try hard enough. That's right. And by the end of this episode, Matthew is going to have eaten an entire bar of two.

I mean, like, as I was saying, I was like, no, there are many things you can't eat even if you try really hard. Like, for example, the sun. Oh, wow. Matthew, that was like the kind of answer that, like, an eight-year-old boy would leap to. No, you can't. You can't eat the sun. Well, thank you. You're welcome. So I'm not smarter than a fifth grader, but I am as petulant as an eight-year-old boy.

That's right.

So today, I have done the research for this episode.

Oh, good.

I'm excited.

I have to say that...

It looks really extensive.

My God.

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