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Krystal Kyle & Friends

Episode 75: Toby Muse

Krystal Kyle & Friends

Krystal

News, Politics

4.51.6K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2022

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

We’re joined by author and journalist Toby Muse to discuss the Colombian presidential election.

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0:00.0

Welcome everybody to Crystal Kyland Friends.

0:10.0

We have an awesome show for you today, so we have an amazing author coming on to talk

0:15.3

about the drug war and the election in Colombia, which is a fascinating topic to me because

0:21.9

we're seeing there what we've seen in other places around the world, which is like this

0:25.8

rise of at least in theory anti-establishment candidates.

0:30.5

Right.

0:31.5

So it's pretty stunning there, and I'm anxious to hear from him because he's an incredible

0:36.0

journalist, incredible author.

0:38.0

He wrote a great book called Kilo that I just finished that goes in depth in like the

0:43.3

drug wars in Colombia, the cartels, starting from the people who plant the coca plant and

0:49.4

what their rational, what their motives are and why they end up in that situation, the

0:53.7

people who pick it, the people who process it, the people who, you know, the drug lords,

0:58.4

then the people on the other side of it, the Coast Guard and the police who were trying

1:01.9

to interdict this cocaine.

1:04.8

So he has very in depth knowledge of the way that the drug war has shaped Colombia and

1:10.0

the violence of them to that, but then he also has deep insights into the political landscape

1:14.2

there.

1:15.2

And so what just happened in the first round of the Colombian presidential election is

1:20.8

that a left-wing candidate, which is very unusual for Colombia, actually was the top

1:25.3

voter getter, but the even war-shocking thing is this dude who's being called a right-wing

1:31.5

populist who ran on this anti-corruption platform that all of you are.

1:34.8

I will not call him a right-wing populist for reasons I'll get you.

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