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🗓️ 10 February 2024
⏱️ 81 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler. |
| 0:09.0 | My guest in my home to record this podcast in person is someone you're very familiar with Ben Shillati. |
| 0:17.0 | Welcome to the podcast, Ben. |
| 0:19.0 | I'm thrilled to be here, Richard. |
| 0:23.0 | And I often pronounce your last name wrong. |
| 0:24.7 | So say it correctly. |
| 0:25.2 | You got it right. |
| 0:25.9 | It's Shalati. |
| 0:27.7 | So it's a tough one. |
| 0:30.8 | It's anglicized Arabic, and that's always confusing. |
| 0:34.6 | Ben is so gracious. |
| 0:38.8 | We meant to record this podcast about an hour and a half ago, but we've been talking, and it's just so great to catch up with Ben and a lot of the conversation that we |
| 0:44.1 | had now will have on the podcast. I reached out to Ben and asked him to be on the podcast. |
| 0:48.9 | He's been on the podcast before, but there's just more that Ben can share with us about his life and the things he's |
| 0:56.0 | learning and the things he hopes for all of us as we were working to create Zion. |
| 1:02.0 | I think this podcast will generally, I'll give you a little bit of an overview, Ben's decision |
| 1:06.1 | to date. That's part of a blog post that we'll post to. I think that's a blog from about November of 2023. |
| 1:13.9 | And so he'll expand on that blog and bring us up to date on his latest feelings about his future. |
| 1:21.0 | He will talk about his work as a therapist. |
| 1:24.2 | As you may know, he no longer works at BYU, left on good terms, and is now |
| 1:30.1 | a therapist, mostly focusing on LGBT clients. He is willing to take on additional clients. We'll |
| 1:38.0 | link to his email on the show notes. You'd need to live in Utah to become a client. You'll also talk about gatherings and also talk about the Book of Mormon. |
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