Episode #73: Cmd. Mike Adams Talks Jus Extra Bellum
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4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 2 May 2014
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Ben sat down with Cmd. Michael Adams, deputy legal adviser to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, at the Pacific Command conference in Manila this week, to talk about his new paper on "Jus Extra Bellum."
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | So, I had a commander who was now a four-star general who when I met him before I'd given |
| 0:41.0 | him any advice, gotten to know him at all. |
| 0:42.8 | I said, I'm really glad you're here, not the problem with our country is we have too many |
| 0:47.2 | lawyers and not enough farmers. |
| 0:48.8 | A small ad me walked away. |
| 0:50.8 | And I wanted to say, I think the problem is that we don't have enough people who take |
| 0:57.6 | responsibility and rely too heavily on the lawyers or rely on them in a wrong way. |
| 1:04.4 | I think what we have in the military is the recognition that when we place our legal advisers |
| 1:14.4 | in the right part of the chain of command and we utilize them at the right time that we |
| 1:21.4 | added incredible value. |
| 1:25.8 | I'm Benjamin Wittes and this is the LawFair podcast May 3rd, 2014. |
| 1:33.0 | That is the voice of commander Michael Adams, deputy legal adviser to the chairman of |
| 1:38.2 | the Joint Chiefs of Staff, operational lawyer for special forces and the author of a new |
| 1:44.0 | paper not yet published on what he calls use extravella, the state's right to conduct |
| 1:50.7 | national security activities outside of warfare. |
| 1:55.0 | Commander Adams presented on the subject in Manila this week at the Milobs conference |
| 1:59.8 | and we sat down afterwards to discuss this provocative subject. |
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