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Make Some Noise with Andrea Owen

Episode 727: Identity, Decisions, and Doing the Inner Work with Heather Chauvin

Make Some Noise with Andrea Owen

Andrea Owen

Education, How To, Self-improvement

4.8 • 516 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Heather Chauvin is back on the show, and honestly, every conversation with her feels like a masterclass in telling the truth. Heather is a leadership coach who helps successful women live, work, and parent on their own terms, and she practices every single thing she preaches, whether that's kayaking Alaska or snowboarding with her kids. In 2013, a stage 4 cancer diagnosis cracked her life wide open and pushed her to take a deeper stand for change, and she has been helping women do the same ever since. In this conversation, we go deep on identity, decision-making, self-trust, psychedelic therapy, and what it actually means to fight for your own aliveness in a world that is constantly pulling your attention outward. This one is meaty and I can’t wait for you to hear it! What you’ll hear in this episode:  Resentment is almost always a sign that you've crossed your own boundary, and it points you right back to what matters. Heather likes to say, you're not stuck, you're avoiding a decision–  and her one question cuts right through it. Self-trust is a practice, and you build it with small decisions, not big leaps. Aliveness requires a fight right now, and Heather makes the case that we can't afford to go numb. Psychedelic therapy is a declutter, not a fix, and she breaks down who she sees benefit most. Your human skills (emotional regulation, discernment, critical thinking), are never going out of style. Real self-care is free, and it probably starts with a conversation you've been avoiding. Heather is one of those people who tells the truth so cleanly that you have no choice but to look at your own life differently, and this conversation is no exception. If you've been white-knuckling your way through life wondering why nothing feels like enough, this episode is for you. Resources from this episode:Follow Andrea on Substack!Check out Andrea’s coaching HERE and HEREHeather’s episode on boundaries in her marriageHeather’s candid conversation with her son podcast episode  Heather Chauvin is a leadership coach who helps ‘successful’ women courageously and authentically live, work, and parent on their own terms. Heather started her career as a social worker helping adults understand children’s behavior. But it wasn’t until 2013 when a stage 4 cancer diagnosis pushed her to take a deeper stand for change, uncovering how cultural expectations sabotage our dreams. She has been featured in Forbes, Entrepreneur, Real Simple Magazine, Mind Body Green, Google, and more. When Heather isn’t working, you will find her living out what she teaches which may include kayaking Alaska, snowboarding, hiking, or anything else that challenges what she believes is possible for herself (and inviting her children along the journey). Life is full of opportunities. It’s time to feel alive. Book recommendations:I love a good personal development book, and you do too, right? I’ve compiled a list of book recommendations, as mentioned in past episodes. Check out these amazing book recommendations here. Happy reading! MSN is supported by:We love the sponsors that make our show possible! You can always find all the special deals and codes for all our current sponsors on our website: andreaowen.com/sponsors/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:32.7

You're listening to Mason Ways Podcast, episode number 727,

0:34.5

with guest Heather Schovein.

0:49.1

Welcome to Make Some Noise podcast, your guide for strategies, tools, and insight to empower yourself.

0:55.9

I'm your host, Andrea Owen, global speaker, entrepreneur, life coach since 2007, an author of three books that have been translated into 18 languages and are available in 22 countries.

1:02.3

Each week, I'll bring you a guest or a lesson that will help you maximize unshakable confidence,

1:07.9

master resilience, and make some noise in your life. You ready? Let's go.

1:20.2

Hi, everyone. Welcome to another episode of the podcast. I am so glad that you're here. We are full

1:25.6

swing in spring. And guess what? We have a new interview for you.

1:29.5

I didn't mean to make a poem, but sometimes I do that. We are full swing in spring. Yes, Heather

1:35.2

Chauvin is a friend of the podcast now. She's been on several times. I always love my conversations

1:40.9

with her. If you are brand new to her, if you've never heard her here on the show,

1:45.4

you will probably notice that when we begin, it's a little casual, like you're just jumping

1:50.7

into a conversation that's been taking place for a long time. But I assure you, it's just

1:54.4

because Heather's been on the show so many times. And so we're talking about boundaries

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