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Make Some Noise with Andrea Owen

Episode 726: The Truth About Strong Women, Self-Abandonment, and Learning to Say No with Allana Kaivalya

Make Some Noise with Andrea Owen

Andrea Owen

Education, How To, Self-improvement

4.8516 Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

This week, I'm back with Alanna Kaivalya, PhD, author of The Way of the Satisfied Woman and expert on mythology, feminine psychology, and spiritual empowerment. This is part two of our conversation, and it might be even better than the first. We picked up right where we left off, and Alanna came with receipts. She goes deep on the practical, embodied, sometimes uncomfortable work of actually stopping the self-abandonment cycle. Not just recognizing it, but interrupting it in real time. We talked about what it means to reclaim your energy from the people and systems that have been draining it, what happens in your relationships when you start saying no, and why so many of us are still waiting for permission we were never going to get. (Link to our first conversation is in the show notes.) What you'll hear about in this episode: The one practice Alanna teaches every woman first: tuning into your body's “sacred no” and how to use it as a real-time pattern interrupt before you abandon yourself again Why stopping your over-functioning will feel messy at first, and why that mess is the point, including the laundry that will pile up and why you should let it The feminine guilt trap: why women feel guilty not for what we've done, but for what someone else might feel, and how to tell the difference between genuine wrongdoing and simply inconveniencing people Why Alanna believes the “let them” philosophy is being used against us, and why she wants to make accountability sexy again instead What Alanna's own past relationship revealed about the danger of “masculine armor,” and what happens when a capable woman attracts a partner who uses her strength as permission to stop showing up Last, a reminder to follow me on Substack if you want to get my longer form writing I’ve been doing lately. I’ll be writing to unpack some pretty big topics, and would love to interact with listeners of the podcast over there 😀 Resources from this episode:Follow me on SubstackAlanna’s previous episode on the podcastAlanna’s websiteAlanna Kaivalya, PhD, is a bestselling author, educator, thought leader, and expert on mythology, spirituality, psychology, and women’s empowerment. The author of The Way of the Satisfied Woman, Sacred Sound, and Myths of the Asanas, she earned a doctorate in mythological studies with an emphasis in depth psychology from Pacifica Graduate Institute and is the host of The Satisfied Woman podcast. She lives in Los Angeles. More information at TheSatisfiedWoman.com. Book recommendations:I love a good personal development book, and you do too, right? I’ve compiled a list of book recommendations, as mentioned in past episodes. Check out these amazing book recommendations here. Happy reading! MSN is supported by:We love the sponsors that make our show possible! You can always find all the special deals and codes for all our current sponsors on our website: andreaowen.com/sponsors/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to Make Some Noise Podcast, episode number 726 with guest Alana Kaivalya.

0:12.8

Welcome to Make Some Noise podcast, your guide for strategies, tools, and insight to empower yourself.

0:20.5

I'm your host, Andrea Owen, global speaker, entrepreneur, life coach since 2007,

0:26.0

an author of three books that have been translated into 18 languages and are available in 22

0:31.4

countries.

0:32.8

Each week, I'll bring you a guest or a lesson that will help you maximize unshakable

0:37.4

confidence,

0:38.4

master resilience, and make some noise in your life.

0:42.4

You ready?

0:43.2

Let's go.

0:48.8

Hello, everyone.

0:52.1

Welcome to another episode of the podcast.

1:15.3

I am so glad that you are here. I am recording this at the end of the day on a Friday, and I have started and stopped this intro four times. This is my fourth time. So I figure if I just say it out loud, I can get through the whole thing. And I am excited to bring you a repeat guest. Alana was on the show last year and I loved her conversation so much. I had a follow-up conversation with her

1:21.9

not that long after. So this was recorded in October 2025. It took me several months to finally get it out to you.

1:30.2

And I tell you that because we are focusing on relationships in this particular episode,

1:36.1

relationships with men. And so, you know, times are a little bit different right now in the world,

1:43.5

in the social world with what we're talking

1:45.9

about and personal growth. So I just wanted to say that up front at the top, as they say.

1:52.9

The other thing is that I'm going to encourage you once again to follow me on Substack.

1:58.4

I have been posting over there a little bit more regularly and have a

2:02.9

plan next month to start posting weekly. I'm going to be doing more deep dives with my writing.

2:09.9

I'm going to be unpacking patriarchy, how patriarchy has impacted me and how I'm still

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