Welcome back to another episode of Startups for the rest of us. I'm Rob Walling. I'm your host this

week and every week. And in this week's episode, Asia Orangio and I talk through seven key takeaways

from the 2024 State of Independent SaaS report. There are many more findings or takeaways than

just seven. And of course, you can download the complete report at state of indysass.com. But here in this episode, Asia and I talk through our thoughts

about the report and kind of some key findings. And without further ado, let me welcome Asia to the

show.

Asia Arangio, great to have you back on startups for the rest of us.

Yes, thank you so much again for having me. Always a pleasure.

So it's been awesome working with you this year on the State of Independent SaaS report. So for folks who aren't aware,

this is our fourth report that we've done over the course of five years. And we survey our entire,

all the microcalf, tiny seeds, start up for the rest of us, audience. And this year we got,

I believe, you were just telling me, it's just under 700 usable responses. And that's statistically significant. Like I've seen

other reports done with two to 300 folks responding. And so these numbers start to have some

meaning at that point, in my opinion.

But this year, you helped do some data analysis and had some pretty interesting findings

that we're going to talk about in this show.

Now, I do want to say one note, as before we dive in, is we talk a little bit about slides

and visuals and such. And it's because we have used

part of this episode on the YouTube channel. And if you go to microconf.com.com slash YouTube,

you'll be able to watch this video and see the full slides. But if not, we did talk through the

findings so that if it's audio only should be able to follow.

So I'm curious from your perspective, State of Intimidate SAS report, what do you see as the

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