The Heart is a show about intimacy, power, gender, bodies, love, sensations that

linger in your body, interactions that you keep turning over in your mind.

Host Caitlin Press and a new team of producers bring you honest, raw and experimental

narratives about all of the invisible things in the air between humans. From Mermaid Palace and

Radiotopia, listen and subscribe at mermaid palace.org or wherever you get your

podcast. Welcome to Gender Reveal, a podcast where we hopefully get a little bit closer to

understanding what the hell gender is. I'm your host and resident gender

detective Molly Woodstock.

Hey everyone, hope you're all still hanging in there. Thank you for listening and hanging out with us for a little bit. It means a lot. This week on the show I speak with Daniel M. Laverie, who you may know as Dear Prudence or as the co-founder of The Toast, or as the author of several books,

including the newly published something that may shock and discredit you.

I really enjoyed this conversation with Danny.

We talk about Mulan and other forced mask content,

transitioning in a different direction than your trans partner, and what we'll do if society collapses

and we can't get tea anymore.

And speaking of tea, we also talk about,

to paraphrase friend of the show, Rose Eveleth,

possible futures of taking testosterone.

Before I tried tea, all that I knew was the things I would

worry I would lose I hadn't yet experienced the things that I

didn't yet realize that I would love and not so possible features.

I also really value and like long for the day that like we can come up with

interesting combinations of sex hormones that people can inject that can give you a mix of like a

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