The Heart is a show about intimacy, power, gender, bodies, love, sensations that linger in your body,

interactions that you keep turning over in your mind.

Host Caitlin Press and a new team of producers bring you honest, raw and experimental

narratives about all of the invisible things in the air between humans. From Mermaid Palace and

Radiotopia, listen and subscribe at mermaid palace.org or wherever you get your

podcast. Welcome to Gender Review, a podcast where we hopefully get a little bit closer to

understanding what the hell gender is. I'm your host and resident gender

detective Molly Woodstock.

Hey everyone, I hope you're all hanging in there.

Please do keep hanging in there. This week on the show

I'm excited to share my interview with queer trans and intersex advocate Mari Roby

Mari shares tips for making your trans-inclusive language

intersex inclusive as well.

They fill us in on all of the advocacy and art that they do, and they tell us about coming

out as trans in middle school and how that informed the way they came into their

inner sex identity. My body is literally telling me like binaries are fake, gender

sex are both social constructs, like they're not real.

Please note that this interview was recorded in January so you will hear references to things like

volunteering, doing photo shoots, going to work.

That's all from the time before, and hopefully we'll resume in the future,

but it's not happening right now.

But before we get to all of that, y'all are still joining the Patreon for some reason.

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