Episode 70: Why Read Fairy Tales?
The Literary Life Podcast
Angelina Stanford
4.7 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 3 November 2020
⏱️ 89 minutes
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Summary
Today on The Literary Life Podcast, Angelina Stanford and Cindy Rollins tackle the topic of fairy stories, discussing the what, why and how of reading them. Angelina shares the distinctive characteristics of fairy stories in contrast to other types of stories, such as myths. They deal with the question of whether fairy tales are "escapist", the influence of the Grimm brothers scholarly work on interpreting fairy stories, and allowing the story to unveil its deeper truths without forcing meaning onto it.
Angelina gives an illustration of how to see the gospel messages in fairy tales by talking us through the story of Sleeping Beauty. She refutes the ideas that fairy tales are about human romance or are misogynistic. She also highlights some of the Enlightenment and Puritan responses to fairy tales that still linger with us today. Cindy and Angelina also discuss some common concerns such as the magical, weird, or scary aspects of fairy tales. Angelina also makes a distinction between folk tales, literary fairy tales, and cautionary tales.
Be sure to be back next week for the beginning of our series on George MacDonald's Phantastes.
Commonplace Quotes:
After a certain kind of sherry party, where there have been cataracts of culture but never on word or one glance that suggested a real enjoyment of any art, any person, or any natural object, my heart warms to the schoolboy on the bus who is reading Fantasy and Science Fiction rapt and oblivious of all the world beside.
C. S. Lewis
Children are not deceived by fairy tales. They are often and gravely deceived by school stories. Adults are not deceived by science fiction. They can be deceived by stories in women's magazines.
C. S. Lewis
Both fairy stories and realistic stories engage in wish fulfillment, but it is actually the realistic stories that are more deadly. Fairy stories do awaken desires in children, but most often it is not a desire for the fairy world itself. Most children don't really want there to be dragons in modern England. Instead, the desire is for they know not what. This desire for something beyond does not empty the real world, but actually gives it new depths. He does not despise real woods because he has read of enchanted woods. The reading makes all real woods a little enchanted.
C. S. Lewis
Ancient History
by Siegfried Sassoon
Adam, a brown old vulture in the rain,
Shivered below his wind-whipped olive-trees;
Huddling sharp chin on scarred and scraggy knees,
He moaned and mumbled to his darkening brain;
'He was the grandest of them all—was Cain!
'A lion laired in the hills, that none could tire;
'Swift as a stag; a stallion of the plain,
'Hungry and fierce with deeds of huge desire.'
Grimly he thought of Abel, soft and fair—
A lover with disaster in his face,
And scarlet blossom twisted in bright hair.
'Afraid to fight; was murder more disgrace? …
'God always hated Cain' … He bowed his head—
The gaunt wild man whose lovely sons were dead.
Book List:
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The World's Last Night by C. S. Lewis
An Experiment in Criticism by C. S. Lewis
"On Three Ways of Writing for Children" by C. S. Lewis
The Princess and The Goblin by George MacDonald
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | You're going to. Welcome to the literary life podcast where your hosts Angelina Stanford and Cindy Rollins, explore a life shaped by books, stories, and poetry. |
| 0:28.0 | Each week, we will rescue story from the Ivory Tower and bring it to your couch, your kitchen, and your commute. |
| 0:35.0 | The literary life is for everyone because in the words of Stratford Caldecott, |
| 0:39.0 | to be enchanted by story is to be granted a deeper insight into reality. |
| 0:44.0 | Hello and welcome to the literary life podcast. |
| 0:50.0 | I am Angelina Stanford and I am here today with the blondest of the blonde |
| 0:54.6 | bombshells herself the original Farah hair of Charlotte Mason education |
| 0:58.9 | Cindy Rollins. Cindy hi. I feel like your introduction is getting longer and longer as we go. |
| 1:07.0 | Yes, and I keep wanting to interrupt saying, yeah, and aging. |
| 1:17.6 | The aging. The aging. We don't say aging. We see the original on this show. Okay. I like that. That works. That's right. That's right. Everything else is just a derivation of |
| 1:24.6 | Cindy's hair. We all know that. Today on the Literary Life |
| 1:29.2 | podcast we are going to talk about a subject that is very near and dear to both of our hearts. |
| 1:34.7 | If you're new to this podcast, I joke that this has become unintentionally the Inklings podcast. |
| 1:41.6 | We have talked about so many fairy stories on this show, |
| 1:45.4 | CS Lewis and Tolkien and we're soon going to be doing George McDonald's |
| 1:49.1 | fantasties. And we talk about how we didn't plan this. |
| 1:56.0 | It's just that every time that the point the podcast |
| 1:59.9 | is to talk about how stories work and how to read them |
| 2:03.6 | and how to enter into the imaginative world of stories, |
| 2:06.8 | which inevitably leads us to a conversation |
| 2:09.4 | about fairy stories because they embody it so much. And when we're trying to figure out what to think about these things of course going to authors like Lewis and Tolkien and and |
| 2:18.3 | Chesterton and and McDonald these these guys just keep coming up. So, because we've been talking about all of these kinds of stories, |
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