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welcome to the team V-Tac podcast.

We are back here at Crusader Acres.

I have my usual suspect, Lucas Lamb, what's up? How you doing?

They can't hear you nod, so you can't just nod.

You know better than that.

You can't just do that.

And then we have a special guest that drove all the way here from Indiana via Michigan and Ohio, kind of got lost in route.

Mike Hawkins, how you doing?

Pretty good.

So Mike, you were on a podcast several months ago we were in

Lucas and I met you in Ohio. We went there to forge Tomah Hawks and you were kind enough to take Lucas under your wing.

And at the time, now here I'm going to tell a little story about you because he was flying under the radar you knew that right Lucas oh yeah yeah

so he shows up there he's like no no I'm just to know I'm just a normal student let me just get up in here and

learn right yeah and that wasn't the case so he took Lucas under his wing

because I had no clue what I was doing. I honestly was clueless and you

guys were able to one put up with each other but two you were able to do some really fine work on some tomahawks and axe heads and

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