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Make Some Noise with Andrea Owen

Episode 688: Deconstructing Belief, Rebuilding Truth with Brittney Hartley

Make Some Noise with Andrea Owen

Andrea Owen

Education, How To, Self-improvement

4.8516 Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

This week’s episode is all about spiritual deconstruction, what it is, why it happens, and what comes after. I’m joined by Brittney Hartley, an atheist spiritual director with a Master’s in Theology who has created a captivated following with her content. I love how Brittany talks about this topic with honesty, clarity, and depth. I wanted to bring this topic to the podcast because so much of what I teach is about deconstructing beliefs that no longer work for us and figuring out what does actually work for you. Religion is often one of those things. From both my personal experience and what I know so many of you have gone through, I think you’re going to love this conversation with Brittney. Here’s what really hit me in our conversation: spiritual deconstruction isn’t just about walking away from religion. It’s about rebuilding a sense of meaning that actually aligns with who you are, not who you were told to be. Brittney shares what helped her through the unlearning process, how religious trauma shows up in sneaky ways (especially for women), and why reclaiming your intuition and identity is deeply spiritual work. What you’ll hear about in this episode: Brittney’s spiritual deconstruction story from Mormonism to theology school to becoming an Atheist Spiritual Director (5:40) Personality traits more likely to lead to deconstruction (spoiler: empathy, curiosity, and authenticity play a big role) (13:27) The sneakier signs of spiritual trauma for women raised in patriarchal religions (15:33) Anchors and practices that helped Brittney rebuild her identity, including discovering core values (20:34) The biggest culprit of religious trauma for women (28:35) Resources from this episode: Interested in doing deeper work within a group setting and with me? Drop a DM on Instagram @heyandreaowen or email support[at]andreaowen.com with the note “Interested in your deeper work” and I’ll send you more details. Britt’s website Britt’s book, No Nonsense Spirituality Britt on Instagram @nononsensespirituality The Heroine’s Journey, Maureen Murdock Deconstruction, Dogma, and Spiritual Beliefs with David Hayward Book recommendations: I love a good personal development book, and you do too, right? I’ve compiled a list of book recommendations, as mentioned in past episodes. Check out these amazing book recommendations here. Happy reading!   MSN is supported by: We love the sponsors that make our show possible! You can always find all the special deals and codes for all our current sponsors on our website: andreaowen.com/sponsors/ Episode link: https://andreaowen.com/podcast/688 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The healthiest way to approach spirituality is how can we value that experience that you had that

0:36.3

made you well up with tears that actually changed

0:39.0

how you show up in the world and changed how you show up in relationships. How do we value that

0:43.8

thing and set time aside for that thing, experience that thing with others, and stay away from

0:50.1

so narrowly defining that thing, the experience is the good stuff.

0:55.7

And I think if we can separate the two, that's where the magic is.

1:01.4

You're listening to Makes Noise Podcast episode number 68 with guest Brittany Hartley.

1:20.9

Welcome to Make Some Noise podcast, your guide for strategies, tools, and insight to empower yourself.

1:29.1

I'm your host, Andrea Owen, global speaker, entrepreneur life coach since 2007, an author of three books that have been translated into 18 languages and are available in 22 countries. Each week, I'll bring you a guest

1:35.6

or a lesson that will help you maximize unshakable confidence, master resilience, and make

1:41.2

some noise in your life. You ready? Let's go. Hey, everyone, welcome to another

1:48.6

episode of the podcast. I am so glad that you're here. Today we have a guest on that's talking

1:53.9

about spiritual deconstruction, also known sometimes as religious deconstruction. And I had someone

2:00.7

on a couple of years ago,

2:02.5

it's hard to believe it's been that long. I will put that link in the show notes. David Hayward was on

2:07.1

talking about this. And I came across Brittany's work. That's who you're going to hear from today

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