Welcome everybody to Crystal Kyland Friends. Thanks for being with us, Crystal. Nice to see you.

Nice to see you. I don't know why I did this one so official. This is a very official beginning if I don't say something myself.

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But anyway, today we're having a lovely conversation. Yes, with a labor organizer, I actually got to speak with her briefly on breaking points and really loved what she had to say. Her name's Daisy Pitkin.

She just wrote a book called On the Line, a story of class solidarity in two women's epic fight to build a union. She's also involved in the Starbucks organizing effort so she can speak to that Starbucks has decided they are going all in on union busting like amping it up even to higher levels, but she also can speak to the broader labor movement and the Amazon labor union, which I obviously am extremely excited about because of the transformational possibilities for the working class. So very timely guest we have here.

So she's a labor organizer. She's part of a union called unite. Yes, and from what I understand, you were telling me that unite is one of the more aggressive unions in terms of organizing people. That's right. This is not a defensive outlet. This is a very offensive outlet and she has been on the front lines of going into some of the most difficult possible workplaces, conditions in, you know, staunchly anti union conservative states with immigrant workers who are fearful, not only of, you know,

the constant union busting, but also sometimes of immigration. And so she really has, you know, a visceral experience with just how hard it is for working class people for workers to get representation and be able to exercise their legal rights. They're supposedly entitled to so.

Yeah. So I'm really looking forward to the conversation. It's going to be a good one. But before we get to that.

Why don't you tell me a little bit about what was the first story we're going to cover again?

Well, we can talk either about there's a little personal development with regard to Spotify and breaking points.

Let's wait on that one. Let's wait. Oh, the CNN plus. Yeah, this story is. Go ahead. This is this fun.

Okay. So as you guys know, CNN plus had their big flashy launch with exciting personalities like Wolf blitzer, Anderson Cooper, Jake Kapper.

So this is the live stream, let's explain everybody just the basic. This is the live stream effort to try to compete with new media basically because look, the reality is CNN makes buckets and buckets of money from traditional cable news, but they also, they also recognize that their average viewer is like 68 years old, like 67, 67, 68 somewhere in there, that the cable news model overall is dying.

Matter of when, not if. And so they know they got to do something and zuckers last big push before he got pushed down was putting together CNN plus is their streaming effort.

I mean, some you see already has one. It's called peacock. Fox already has one. It's called like Fox News Nation or something. I didn't even know Fox had one. Oh, you didn't know.

Yeah, that's where like diamond and silk had to show their friends. Oh, how to show over there. Yeah, she got hired for that. So they've spent a lot of actually Tucker has a show there too that even people don't want any of it in the wood room in the wood room.

Why are you in a wood room? Yeah. So that's an expensive wood room too. We know how much sets costs. It's a lot of money that they put into that. She's so weird room.

So anyway, none of them is going very well, although they don't really publish their numbers, which is proof that it's going well because if it was going well, they would do, they would tell you all about it. Okay.

So this is CNN's Netflix or CNN's Disney plus. That's what this is. They're attempted that. They're attempted. Yes, except without the content that anyone wants to watch. Okay.

True. So we have a little bit of indication of how this was is actually going. And this is from TechCrunch. So it's not some like partisan or anti CNN outlet.

They say CNN plus launch might be off to a bumpy start numbers suggest. CNN plunge plus launched on Tuesday, March 29th and is already showing mediocre results in terms of standalone mobile app installs.

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