Episode 674: Goals, Tiny Experiments, and Neuroscience with Anne-Laure Le Cunff

Make Some Noise with Andrea Owen

Andrea Owen

Education, How To, Self-improvement

4.8 • 516 Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

I’m talking with award-winning neuroscientist and author Anne-Laure Le Cunff about how to stop letting goals run your life and start experimenting (in small ways) to a more fulfilling one. Her new book, Tiny Experiments, offers a practical, science-backed approach to navigating uncertainty, ditching perfectionism, and making real progress, on your own terms. We dig into how the pressure to always achieve can mess with your mental health, why your brain freaks out when things feel unclear, and how small experiments can lead to big shifts. Plus, we talk about the beauty in what these tiny experiments hold - data and feedback about what worked, what didn’t, whether to keep going, to stop, or to change something up. Anne-Laure’s challenge for you, after listening, is to ask yourself: “What tiny experiment can I try this week?” What You’ll Hear: How living in a goal-obsessed world affects our mental well-being and sense of self-worth (5:24) The reason we are so afraid of uncertainty in our careers (9:06) “Tiny experiments” and how they can help you find your personalized map to a fulfilling life (13:29) Perfectionism is often a barrier to both happiness and progress – adopting an experimental mindset can help you let go of the need to be perfect (20:42) A few simple, experiments you can try right now (without overhauling your entire life) (35:45) Resources: Join the How to Stop Feeling Like Shit 5-Day Challenge🎉 How to Stop Feeling Like Shit 8-Week Experience Anne-Laure’s websiteAnne-Laure’s newsletter Tiny Experiments: How to Live Freely in a Goal-Obsessed World Anne-Laure on Instagram Book recommendations: I love a good personal development book, and you do too, right? I’ve compiled a list of book recommendations, as mentioned in past episodes. Check out these amazing book recommendations here. Happy reading! MSN is supported by: We love the sponsors that make our show possible! You can always find all the special deals and codes for all our current sponsors on our website: andreaowen.com/sponsors/ Episode link: http://andreaowen.com/674 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:29.7	I think you can be very successful even though you don't have a clear plan, even though you
0:34.5	don't know exactly where you're going. And that success can be something
0:37.6	that emerges from just exploring and experimenting. When we let go of those linear goals,
0:43.3	that means that everybody can finally get to explore their own definition of success. And you can
0:48.2	stop comparing yourself to other people. You can create your own sandbox where it doesn't matter
0:53.9	if you're climbing a ladder and if you're climbing the same ladder other people. You can create your own sandbox where it doesn't matter if you're climbing
0:54.9	a ladder and if you're climbing the same ladder other people that are climbing.
1:01.4	You're listening to Makesenoise podcast episode number 674 strategies, tools, and insight to empower yourself.
1:22.3	I'm your host, Andrea Owen, global speaker, entrepreneur, life coach since 2007, an author of three books that
1:29.5	have been translated into 18 languages and are available in 22 countries. Each week, I'll bring
1:35.6	you a guest or a lesson that will help you maximize unshakable confidence, master resilience,
1:41.4	and make some noise in your life. You ready? Let's go.
1:49.0	Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of the podcast. I'm so glad that you're here.
1:53.5	Do you remember in one of my last coming home to yourself episodes, I was talking about how
1:58.3	excited I was that I just interviewed a woman who was a neuroscientist
2:02.2	about something she calls tiny experiments. This is that episode. I cannot wait for you to hear it.
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