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Episode 65: Revisiting Murder among the Mormons (J.B. Haws)

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🗓️ 1 October 2022

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Netflix’s 2021 docuseries Murder among the Mormons reached #2 on the most-viewed list in the week it came out. But how much did the documentary actually get right? In this episode, Professor J. B. Haws gives his perspective as a Church historian, pointing out the strengths and weaknesses of the docuseries as well as the theological implications of the Mark Hoffman murders—and the reason why this story still matters.

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0:00.0

Hi there, my wire-religion friends, Professor Anthony Sweight here from Buoy used a partner

0:03.4

of Tritistry and Doctor and welcome to another episode of the Wire-religion podcast.

0:07.9

When I was a brand new return missionary, I went to work at a small company that framed

0:13.1

and sold art prints for shops and office buildings.

0:16.7

Well, I had a good relationship, I think, with most of my co-workers.

0:21.2

I could tell that one of them, in particular, didn't take a liking to me, probably partly

0:27.8

because of my return missionary zeal that I exuded.

0:32.3

On one particular day, I was talking to him, and he suddenly turned the conversation

0:37.1

toward the church, expressing some pretty hostile views towards the faith.

0:42.8

What surprised me most wasn't that I was in a conversation with someone that had strong

0:47.5

biases against the church, that wasn't very new to me.

0:51.8

But something that he said was brand new to me, that I had never heard before.

0:58.2

As he was talking, he started to list all the reasons why he couldn't believe that

1:02.4

Joseph Smith was a true prophet.

1:04.8

And one of them, as best as I can remember, he said something like this, I just don't

1:09.9

see how you can believe someone who talks to a white salamander in the woods as a prophet

1:15.6

of God.

1:17.6

You guys, I simply had no idea what he was talking about.

1:22.7

I said something in return like, if we don't think that Joseph Smith talked to a white

1:27.2

salamander in the woods, where on earth are you getting that from?

1:31.8

I can't remember his exact response or mine, but today I do know where he got that story

1:37.5

from.

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