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🗓️ 2 November 2021
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Leah and Mike talk to a long term scientology whistleblower, Tory "Magoo" Christman. Her story covers the gamut -- OSA dirty tricks, disconnection, the Lisa McPherson Trust, being Fair Gamed and a whole lot more. It is an episode that seemed too short with such a bright, smart and kind person.
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0:00.0 | Welcome to another Scientology Bear Game Podcast. Hello Mikey. |
0:09.0 | Hi Lily. How's things out there in California, A? |
0:13.0 | Little cold! |
0:15.0 | That's cold? |
0:17.0 | Yeah, it's cold today. It's been hot. It's been cold. |
0:21.0 | Well let's introduce our guest. |
0:23.0 | Yes. |
0:24.0 | Hi Tari Christmas, the famous McGoo and all around good person who has been speaking out about the abuses of Scientology for I don't know, 20 years or more. |
0:39.0 | And we have never spoken to you before either on the aftermath or on our podcast. |
0:45.0 | So we thought it would be a great opportunity to have a chat with you today. Hi Tari. |
0:50.0 | Hi Tari. |
0:51.0 | Thank you very much. |
0:52.0 | Hi Lily. Glad to have you. Glad to have you. |
0:55.0 | Thank you. |
0:56.0 | Mike, let's go over Tari's history so she doesn't have to do it. Then we can get into the meat of this. |
1:02.0 | Sure. And correct me Tari, if I got anything wrong here, I took it sort of off Wikipedia and various other places and a declaration or attestation that is on the internet from you. |
1:15.0 | But you were basically raised a Catholic, but then you got into Scientology because your parents in Chicago who you were visiting in 1969 had a copy of Dynetics and you started reading it. |
1:27.0 | And then you hitchhiked to LA and then you got involved in Scientology and then you're doing the sea, and you're in the sea or for 10 years. |
1:34.0 | And you made it all the way to OT 7. |
1:36.0 | And there's the background of Tari. |
1:40.0 | Now Mike, a lot of times, Scientology likes to discredit people who left, right? |
1:45.0 | Right. |
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