Episode 63: Former SO Member Nora Ames

Fair Game

Leah Remini & Mike Rinder

True Crime, Society & Culture

4.8 • 9.7K Ratings

🗓️ 26 October 2021

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Leah and Mike welcome Nora Ames, former SO member and outspoken whistleblower concerning the hypocrisy of scientology's rampant homophobia. She has one of the most incredible and harrowing escape from the Sea Org stories as well as what she did to get her mother out of scientology. Both her father and mother were scientology Guardian Office workers.

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0:00.0	Well, hello. Welcome to another episode of Scientology Fear game. Hello, Mikey.
0:10.0	Hello, Lili. How's things today out there?
0:14.0	Hey, it was crazy. You want to know what happened last night?
0:19.0	Uh, you had a dream.
0:21.0	No, I didn't. Oh, a dream.
0:24.0	No. What? What happened?
0:26.0	Okay, what happened was get ready. Yeah, I'm ready. It rained in Los Angeles.
0:31.0	Oh my god. Yeah. Oh, it was a crazy night.
0:37.0	Um, there was a loud sound that came from the sky.
0:42.0	Yeah. And lightning.
0:46.0	Very scary. Yes. Well, and everybody started driving off the road and smashing into things.
0:51.0	Pretty sure it was trending on Twitter. Rain in Los Angeles.
0:58.0	Hey, Mike, we have another special guest with us today.
1:02.0	We do indeed. Would you like to do the honors?
1:05.0	Certainly. Okay.
1:07.0	We'd love to welcome Nora Ames, who is someone that we have both known and, uh,
1:16.0	have a great deal of affection for Nora was born and raised a Scientologist.
1:21.0	She was in this organization and she is also someone who has done a great deal of work to expose the hypocrisy and the abuses in Scientology when it comes to gay, lesbian, bisexual.
1:44.0	Those things have for a long time or were for a long time, uh, sort of not spoken about it all by anybody and Scientology pretended that they were open and accepting of all
2:05.0	types of people and that just is a big fat fucking lie. And Nora was one of the people who stood up and said, uh, wait a minute.
2:17.0	This is bullshit and she did some videos and she has spoken out about this and we have not spoken to her.
2:26.0	Unfortunately, when we were doing the aftermath, we couldn't get her on the program.
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