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Well, Ben, I got to tell you, you know, we had you back on, I think it was like maybe May

last year or something like that. And your episode was one of our most popular episodes, was one like the first really big ones we had, were really people were excited. That's great. I'm thrilled to hear that. Put us on the map. Well, you had a lot, you had a lot interesting stuff to say. And I think people really enjoy listening what to say it. And I know when we last talked, you know, you said, well, there's a lot of things we can still cover. And I think that's, So you're our first return guest. Hey, I'm delighted. I'm delighted.

We're when we last talked, you know, you said, well, there's a lot of things we can still cover, and I think that's, so you're our first return guest.

Hey, well, I'm delighted. I'm delighted.

We're on, we're on. I think this is like episode 63 or something like that. So we're starting to, we got lots of people coming on still, but we wanted to reach out to you. And I know, one of the topics that you lamented that we didn't get to cover that much was regarding the mitochondria.

And I think that is something that, you know, if you're willing to, maybe discuss some of that and how the implications of how the mitochondria work and what their health implication might be. Or really any other things, because I know you've been putting out a lot of studies that you found interesting. so I think those things let's just kind of go from there but whatever you want to talk about

Ben I'm sure our audience will just absolutely eat it up as I as I will and hopefully we can get

some intelligent I hopefully Zach and I can figure out some intelligent questions I ask you

man yeah well it'll be refreshing.

The semester started, so I'm always looking forward to good questions.

And always, of course, being a professor means it's this odd mix of actually answering a question you know the answer to.

And then, you know, kind of being humble enough to admit when you don't know.

Nevertheless, yeah. But guys, let's make sure we talk a little bit about mTOR. Sure. And in mTOR signaling and a lot of the... Well, let's start with that, Ben. Yeah, let's go. Let's get to roll into it if that's what you want. Well, yeah, yeah, because mitochondria, we'll come back to that no matter what, I'm sure, just because that's so much of an area of research.

As you guys know, when I spoke at the low-carb Denver meeting that Rod Taylor and Jeff Gerber put on every year last year,

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