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I'm doing.

I think we're trying to talk about the health side of this, but I think it's important to talk about the, you know, the environmental side.

So let's,'s Zach are we recording

yep all right well Diana welcome to the HBO podcast you are I believe episode number

60 what three 62 six to 62 so we've been Jack and I've been doing this now for us is what

we started in April last year right so so we've yeah. So we've got, well over 600,000 downloads, so we're getting out there, getting the message. That's awesome. But I think, you know, and, you know, obviously, personally, I've been driving home the health message about meat not being bad for us. You know, in fact, you can you can survive on just

meet and do this fine. But I mean, certainly it's not something that we should demonize.

Unfortunately, we seem to see ever increasingly, in my view, day after day that we're being

told that we need to limit meat, reduce meat, consumption, we need perhaps

tax meat. We should make that meat a condiment and eat it sparingly for health reasons, which

I think are not correct. But just as importantly, we're being told that the single best thing

you could possibly ever do for the

environment is not to eat meat and go on a plant-based diet. And I know you probably would have

some degree of disagreement with that. So let's just start a little bit about what you do,

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