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In Bed With The Right

Episode 62: AI Slop and the New Fascist Aesthetic with Roland Meyer

In Bed With The Right

Adrian Daub and Moira Donegan

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Sexuality

4.8662 Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Why have our new right-wing overlords taken such a shine to chintzy, shiny AI slop? What is persuasive about these phony, artless, slightly desperate images? How do they originate, and how do they circulate? For this episode, Moira and Adrian are joined by Roland Meyer, who is a professor of digital cultures and arts at the University of Zurich and the University of the Arts in Zurich, Switzerland. If you're trying to picture the kinds of image they're discussing, it might be helpful to check out Roland's huge thread on Bluesky. And if you're trying to follow along with our discussion of specific images, we have collected a bunch of the examples we discuss in the episode here.

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Adrian Dobb.

0:08.3

And I'm Weaver Donigan.

0:09.4

Whether we like it or not, we're in bed with the right.

0:13.5

So, Adrian, today we are talking about the aesthetics of AI.

0:19.3

And their weird, creepy, very uncanny gender politics that they have inserted into our culture.

0:26.0

So AI imagery has become a real fixture in like certain kinds of social media.

0:31.4

I see it mostly on Elon Musk's Twitter, which I guess now we are all calling X.

0:39.4

And while it's fair to see the AI slop, this like particular kind of imagery generated by these machineries, is pretty pervasive.

0:45.2

I think it's also clear that there are certain populations online that gravitate more towards it

0:49.9

to find it persuasive or they find it to be like a useful tool for their communications and

0:55.4

political projects, right? And there are others who pretty much reject it. And there are some

1:00.5

places online where like using AI imagery is in fact like taboo, right? Yeah. So I go so far as to

1:06.1

say that the use of AI imagery is becoming itself a kind of signaling tool.

1:12.8

So whether you use it or whether you don't,

1:16.3

says something to your audience about you and about where you stand.

1:19.9

And some camps are really partaking of this technology,

1:24.4

very liberally, in creating images to route their project.

1:27.2

Yeah, and it's very telling that, like,

1:30.3

it's very specifically tied up also with certain platforms.

1:34.6

That is to say, Elon Musk loves AI and AI generated imagery and seems to really want to center it on, as you say,

1:38.6

the platform he now calls X.

1:40.4

But, I mean, I'm guessing that the Venn diagram of embed with the right listeners and truth social users is two separate circles.

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