All right, kiddos, this is your earmuffs warning.

This is not an over-the-top raunchy podcast, but if you've read my books, you know I'm not afraid

to use some colorful language.

We might also cover some adult topics if they come up in the questions so just be aware of that.

Finally I need to remind you that while I am a therapist I'm not your therapist so

please don't try to use this as a substitute for professional help.

Also, please don't try to sue me.

Thank you. All right, what is up, ladies gentleman and friends of all varieties. This is the Hardcore Self Help Podcast

episode 61. I'm your host Dr Robert Duff, a psychologist from Southern California and the

author of the Hardcore Self Help book series. And today I actually have an interview, an interview with the

most important person that's ever going to be on this podcast. I'm peeking right now

because the guest is my wife, Joelle Duff. Hi. So we've been talking about getting on the show

together and talking about stuff for a while now but we haven't done it yet. And the main reason I wanted to have you on is just because

you know you've allowed me to be honest about your experience with anxiety and mental health

and things like that in my books on the

podcast, other mediums and you've been honest on your own stuff about it too, you know,

social media and your blog and so I just wanted to get a little bit of

information about you know

Just your experience. There's a lot of different things we could talk about but one of the things I actually I actually don't know about is

What your first experiences are that looking back had to do with anxiety like when do you think you developed it or has it always been there?

What do you think?

Yeah, I mean, I've always been a really shy person, which is really surprising to people that meet me now,

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