Welcome to Our Hen House.

This is Jasmine Singer.

And this is Mary Ann Sullivan.

Thank you for joining us this week.

We're so excited about Marianne's guest.

Henry Mance is a writer for the Financial Times in the UK.

And he has just written a most extraordinary book about our relationship with animals.

It's called How to Love Animals in a Human-shaped World.

I love that.

Yeah, it's a really good book, and this is a really good interview.

I think you're really going to enjoy it.

You know, he's

relatively new to the issues and it's always interesting to see how really smart people kind of

adapt to finding out what's happening to animals. And I would say he's adapted pretty well.

So on the flock bonus segment, I'll be continuing my conversation with Henry.

And as always, if you are a flock member, you'll get that link to the bonus segment in your email on the Tuesday after the podcast episode goes up.

You can always find it on the flock Facebook group.

If you're not a member of the flock and you can afford it, we would really love it if you could join for $10 a month

at our henhouse.org slash donate. Also, if you're already a flock member, please join us for our

Flock First Friday Zoom calls, which are once a month on the first Friday at 4 p.m. Eastern or 8 p.m. Greenwich

Meantime, where we focus on how to be better activists, how to take care of

ourselves. And we talk to some former podcast guests so that you can ask them all your burning

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