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Hey everyone, it's Anna Rittenberg and Kyle Bonagura, host of the Unforgotten Season 3,

Finding Dolores Wolf. And we are here to recap episode 6 moving on,

which posted earlier this week. It's really a, at least the first two-thirds of the episode are

very much focused on Carl Wolf and his life and his origins and where he came from. And we really

wanted to, you know, take to take the listeners through this character,

who you obviously have heard a lot about through the first five episodes,

but probably don't know as much about, you know,

where he originated and his family.

We introduced you to his brother, Dick Wolf, Richard Wolfe,

who remained in touch with

Paul Wolf and the other siblings, you know, through those difficult years and even to this day.

You know, he's an older man, lives still back in Minnesota with his wife, Pat.

And we were able to interview them a couple of times through the course of this reporting.

And, you know, we obviously learned a lot about Carl as a young person.

And then much more about when he returned to Minnesota after essentially, you know,

walking free of all the legal issues at the end of 1985. And that was a really important period

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