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We are approaching episode 600 here in another 12 episodes or so, and today's episode is really good.

I really enjoyed this conversation with Cortland Allen.

He and I basically wander through topics that are relevant to bootstrappers and indie hackers and non-bootstrappers and mostly bootstrappers.

We talk about things ranging from inside baseball on podcast production to talking about, you know, struggles with motivation and depression

to whether it's easier to bootstrap today, what it looked like 10 years ago,

at the end we talk about base camp. I don't know.

We just covered a lot of things.

I did a little ask on Twitter of what topics we should cover.

And, of course, we got 30 topics or something.

So we couldn't possibly cover all of them,

but I am bookmarking that tweet for future episodes because I think some of the topics and questions were really interesting.

Before we dive into our conversation, I want to let you know that there's just a few more

days in the Tiny Seed application process. If you are a bootstrapped or mostly bootstrapped

SaaS founder, you're doing at least $500 a month, and you're interested in a year-long

mentorship, advice, community program, as well as a little bit of funding just enough funding

the right amount of funding for a bootstrapper should head to tini c.com slash apply and find out more

the application process is pretty seamless it's 15 20 minutes most people if you know your numbers

it's not that arduous and you'd be following in the footsteps of some pretty great SaaS companies that have been coming through our ranks.

So we are running batches both in the America's time zones, north and South America, as well as the European time zones.

So Europe, Middle East, and Africa.

TinyC.com slash apply if you're interested.

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