Episode 585 - Left Nationalism vs Left Internationalism (w/ Chris Alfonso)
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Bad Faith
4.5 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 18 June 2026
⏱️ 121 minutes
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Summary
Short-form socialism-explainer Chris Alfonso, aka Jean-Paul Fartre, returns to Bad Faith pod to noodle on the nature of US empire and answer a question recently presented in a conversation between NYT podcaster Ezra Klein & Bernie foreign policy advisor Matt Duss: Is the left's goal a left nationalism or a left internationalism? What does left internationalism mean if raising workers' standards of living is the sine qua non of left advocacy, but doing so sometimes comes at the expense of the global south? But first: The Knicks win, and why JLo's controversial Subway Takes take is right. Also, we weigh in on progressive wins on election day, Graham Platner's origin story, and two recent cop killings that demonstrate why the defund movement should not die.
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Produced by Armand Aviram.
Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands).
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| 0:11.0 | I'm Here's what I really want to ask you. Here's what I really want to ask you. Here's why I really want to ask you. |
| 0:40.1 | Here's why I really was interested in having you on. |
| 0:42.9 | The next have obviously won. |
| 0:45.7 | Everyone's very excited about this. |
| 0:47.9 | People are excited about this well beyond the five boroughs. |
| 0:52.4 | There's been a lot of allegations of bandwagoning. |
| 0:54.9 | But additionally, additionally, it comes hot on the heels of J-Lo having the spiciest subway |
| 0:59.7 | take of all subway takes, which is to say that if you were not born, born in New York, |
| 1:06.4 | you are not a New Yorker. |
| 1:08.0 | Now, by J-Lo's own estimation, I don't count as a New Yorker either, even though I moved |
| 1:13.3 | there as a teenager and graduated from high school in New York. |
| 1:16.3 | That being said, I support J-Lah to a certain extent. |
| 1:19.4 | I would modify her terms to include people who had done some elementary, middle, or high |
| 1:24.1 | school education in New York. |
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