Probably Science

Hello and welcome to Probably Science. This is the voice of Andy Wood.

Hey, this is Jesse Case.

I'm Matt Kirsh and deep into the Sarah Milliken tour now.

I'm recording in Phoenix as we speak, but by the time this comes out, who knows where I'll be. I'll be somewhere further east, I'm sure. We have a guest who is a comedian, a podcaster, an occasional pickleball partner of me, who's far too good because he was also a tennis pro. It's Jeff Zinniszek. How are you, Jeff? Hey, how's going? Hey, good, man. Going well. That's a, uh, Zinisek is a great tennis pro name. Yeah, really. Yeah, it's very, uh, like Eastern European Czech, kind of. Is that where it's where, where does that originate? Yeah, it's a, yeah, it's a Czech last name. So you haven't changed it to Zinesek Republic? No, yeah. Or, yeah, it was hyphenated that. And then I just, you know, for entertainment purposes, I took off. Stage name, you go back to Zach. Yeah, yeah. And I get it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is our second second tennis pro we've had a few tennis pros on

did you guys have costa on the show yeah i went to high school with him yeah oh nice years back yeah

yeah he's sick dude i um he was definitely a more accomplished tennis player than me he had a world

ranking i didn't have that but um we played a couple of times when i uh

moved out here and uh talked to him a little bit just because like i knew that he did tennis

and we talked to you guys do you guys go full when when you play the two of you is like is it real

like is it like both of us are trying our absolute hardest or is

like a leisurely uh i think you i mean you you're like you're still like probably trying kind

of hard but you're not like killing yourself you know i mean like yeah could you actually if

you really said i'm going to play my hardest today are you you gonna be in pain for a week or something or no?

Yeah for sure. Oh yeah like definitely. But that's that's kind of the problem. I have that that like competitive douchebag thing that's like really hard to let go. So it's like I I'll be like, oh yeah, this will just be like fun or whatever. And then like someone will like get a point. And then I'm like, okay, now it's fucking on, dude. And then I just can't help it. It's like I'll throw my back out. I'll like, you know, lay out for stuff. I'm running for shit. I probably shouldn't. I just, it's always been like that with sports stuff for me. Yeah, I can imagine. I mean, I was, I'm a swimmer, which is different. And so I guess if any, if any given moment, I was going to race somebody, I would race them the hardest I could in that moment

but if I'm not in shape it's just not going to be very impressive yeah but I'm not

going to like wake up sore the next day or something it's swimming seems like it's it

seems hard to know what's going on around you I'm terrible at swimming probably because like

every pool I've ever been in I can like stand up in you know because I'm terrible at swimming probably because like every pool I've ever been in I can

like stand up in you know because I'm like tall so like yeah swimming's like I was bad at

it it's like super hard it's it's it's it's a slog I mean it's also if you're not if it

doesn't line up with your mindset it's a pretty. I mean, it's also, if you're not, if it doesn't line up with your mindset, it's a pretty boring existence, the training and, uh, I've trouble with the breathing under water, you know?

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