Episode 581 - Sick Saad World (w/ Matt McManus)
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🗓️ 4 June 2026
⏱️ 102 minutes
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Summary
Spelman College professor and author of The Political Right & Equality, & The Political Theory of Liberal Socialism, returns to Bad Faith to to discuss his recent article on the Gad Saad, the poor man's Jordan Peterson, his case against "suicidal empathy," and what it shows about the status of the conservative movement. But first, we cover the latest Graham Platner sexting scandal, the NYC Israel Parade, & the California election results. https://jacobin.com/2026/05/saad-empathy-conservatism-book-review
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| 0:22.6 | I'm engaged in all these conversations with people who are like dramatically less online than I am |
| 0:54.9 | historically. And I explain all of the characters that we know and love. And I found myself |
| 1:00.0 | feeling like an absolute crazy person for, you know, what's a Barry Weiss to, you know, who's |
| 1:04.9 | Haasen Pike or, you know, people who we very much think of as like mainstream normal people. |
| 1:10.1 | But I am very glad to say that while I have a like a very superficial understanding of |
| 1:15.1 | who Gad Sad is based on Elon Musk having elevated his tweets over time, reading your piece |
| 1:21.4 | made me feel normal for once, is what I'm trying to say. |
| 1:24.5 | Yeah, yeah, you're lucky. |
| 1:25.7 | Believe me, you do not want to subject yourself to pages and pages of sad, but it's funny you mentioned that I was talking to my parents today. I'm in Canada for a little while because my parents' 70th birthday at a conference. They were like, oh, what are you doing today? And I'm like, oh, I'm going to go to the conference and then I'm doing on the bad faith podcast. And they're like, he's explaining, what are you doing? And I'm like, I'm talking about Gadsad and a few other things. And they're like, who's that? I'm like, oh, don't even get you started, mom. You're really lucky you don't know. Just count your blessings. Yeah, big ignorance is bliss energy. Well, Matt McManus. I'm very glad to have you back on the podcast. It's been about half a year. It's always such a pleasure to talk. Audience, Matt McMahon is an assistant professor at Spelman College. |
| 2:02.6 | He is author of The Political Right and Equality and the Political Theory of Liberal Socialism, |
| 2:08.5 | among other books. |
| 2:10.0 | Welcome back to Bad Faith. |
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