Episode 577 - Where Are All The Eco-Terrorists? (w/ Yasha Levine, Edward Ongweso Jr., & Aaron Regunberg)
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🗓️ 21 May 2026
⏱️ 106 minutes
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Summary
We've assembled an all-star panel of journalists to break down the controversy around the AI data centers being built across the country. We start with a discussion of the curious & controversial Jacobin piece by Holly Buck in which she opposes Bernie Sanders' data center moratorium. Why would a left publication advance a take that so obviously benefits big AI? Journalists Levine, Ongweso & Regunberg go on cover Tucker Carlson's take down of Billionaire Kevin O'Leary over O'Leary's Utah data center that's anticipated to be twice the size of Manhattan, the surveillance implications of said centers, the media campaign to get Democrats to stop talking about all environmental issues, the ratcheting up of criminal penalties for protestors, and what this means for millions of Americans who find themselves living in the shadow of these AI energy hogs.
Further reading: https://jacobin.com/2026/04/data-center-ai-moratorium-bernie
https://aaronregunberg.substack.com/p/corporate-dems-are-climate-scapegoating
https://jacobin.com/2024/08/climate-crisis-disinformation-fossil-fuels
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| 0:41.5 | I'm very excited about this, |
| 0:42.8 | and part for the reasons that I think you guys were just talking about, |
| 0:47.5 | which is that this seems to be an issue that has prompted what, |
| 0:52.3 | at least from my perspective, |
| 0:53.9 | is an unexpected amount of debate, even within the left. |
| 0:58.7 | Were you guys talking about the sort of Holly Buck, Jacobin article back and forth? |
| 1:04.3 | Well, we weren't talking about that when you came in. |
| 1:06.9 | No. |
| 1:07.3 | I think we were talking about questioning the idea that there actually is a debate on the left |
| 1:12.3 | because I don't actually think there is, there's like a couple big tech friendly voices and |
| 1:18.9 | literally everyone else. |
| 1:20.3 | I mean, yeah, yeah. |
| 1:21.3 | I'm happy to talk about Bucks piece. |
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