Episode 575: Cassidy Lundgren, Scrupulosity and Depression

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2022

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

My friend Cassidy Lundgren (married mother of four, active LDS) joins us to talk about her three-decade journey dealing with OCD (especially scrupulosity subset) and depression. Cassidy starts with her high school and college years never feeling good enough and being sad all the time—and incorrectly believing that more religious commitment was the key to solve her challenges. Cassidy’s shares how this continued into her college and married years until she was diagnosed with scrupulosity which helped her understand her challenges were not a spiritual weakness but a mental health issue. This was a compete paradigm shift for Cassidy. She gave herself permission to do Church on her terms and develop boundaries on how best to move forward as a committed Latter-day Saint. Cassidy also shares her journey with depression and how she continues to deal with that challenge. Cassidy is very open and brave about her sadness, fears, manifestations of her scrupulosity. It is her hope that her vulnerability will help others walking a similar road. Thank you, Cassidy, for being on the podcast. You are very brave. Your story will help so many! Like to book (The Doubting Disease) mentioned in the podcast: https://www.amazon.com/Doubting-Disease-Scrupulosity-Compulsions-Integration/dp/0809135531 ** Please Check Out My New Book (Listen, Learn and Love: Improving Latter-day Saint Culture; link below which has a chapter on this subject) ** Deseret Book: https://deseretbook.com/p/listen-learn-love Amazon: amazon.com/dp/1462139566

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0:00.0	Welcome listeners out there to another episode of our podcast called Listen, Learn, and Love,
0:11.6	hosted by Richard Osler.
0:14.1	As you know, you can't donate to this podcast, but you can leave a review.
0:18.1	And if you feel so inspired to do that, sure appreciate that at
0:22.0	iTunes wherever you listen. Many of you have done that. And it helps connect more listeners to
0:27.2	the amazing guests that bravely come on this platform and share their stories. And we have
0:32.3	another one today. I'm Cassidy Lundgren. Welcome to the podcast, Cassidy. Thank you so much.
0:40.3	Cassidy is joining us via Zoom from her home in Phoenix. She's going to talk about her journey
0:46.5	with mental health, especially scrupulosity. And she's in her mid-40s. As I mentioned, she lives in Phoenix.
0:53.8	She's a married mom of four kids,
0:56.2	been married over 20 years, active LDS, grew up in Houston.
1:00.2	My wife grew up in Houston, but not quite the same spot.
1:02.8	So we have a common connection to Houston,
1:05.1	a city that we love.
1:07.3	As I've read through Cassidy's outlaw,
1:09.1	and I've kind of gotten pretty tenderhearted for Cassidy because she's been on a long road for a long time working with her mental health, largely undiagnosed for much of this journey and turning to sort of spiritual tools, which are a good thing.
1:25.4	But often the spiritual tools we turn to don't solve
1:28.1	mental health issues. Those are usually two different roads. Mental health tools solve mental
1:34.2	health issues and mental health isn't a spiritual weakness, although I think the role of the
1:39.3	atonement to heal and bring hope and perspective is helpful. If so, this podcast is, we'll talk about scrupulosity, we'll be a little broader than that.
1:49.7	And I asked Cassidy, before we went live, you know, why you'd like to do this.
1:54.2	And she may mention this, but she said, I really want people to know about scrupulosity,
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