I think at one point he compares one of the men to Bonnie Blue, who is an adult film actor or only fans, I guess you would say, more model person who is famous for having sex with many, many, many, like hundreds of men on camera at once.

And the guy bulks.

Like he's like, what we're doing is not the same. Don't compare me to Blani Blue. She's horrible. And he's like, well, I'm not saying you're literally doing the same thing, but isn't there something performative and you're selling yourself, you're selling your body, you're selling your image? And the men absolutely, absolutely reject that idea. Completely. I very much see, you know, Bonnie Blue as a parallel to these figures.

And I've written before that Bonnie Blue is like the Mr. Beast of the adult industry in that she is always, she's monetizing these stunts, basically.

They're all sexual stunts that she's doing.

And the headlines of those stunts are really what is driving attention to her.

But the cognitive dissonance of these men in the documentary, I think, is really part and parcel of their overall thing of they really have this mentality of having

it all, that they can, you know, be the alpha male, but they can still be a victim in society

that, you know, they can say whatever they want without having to actually face consequences for it.

And basically that they get to live in a world, you know, free of any of the confines or

boundaries of ethics or logic, really.

Yeah. Do you think this documentary was fundamentally successful? I do. I think that the

response that it's generated from the people involved in the documentary since has made it a big

success. And I don't think that anybody has come out of watching the documentary and then seeing the way that people have reacted to it following its release, you know, the people involved have looked at any of this and thought that these guys look good. I would say that I'd love to hear a story of, you know, like, oh, I'm, you know, I'm a 15-year-old man and I watch this documentary and now I don't think this is cool anymore.

I don't know if that's happening.

I don't know if, you know, it's been a success in achieving, I think, its aims of highlighting the inconsistencies of this culture and the harms of this culture.

And it's been a success in upsetting its subjects in a way that I think further

has further kind of taken them down a notch.

They don't look to be the, you know, the cool calm calm collected alpha male that they, they want to be anymore. But it's totally possible

that all of this is just occurring within a bubble and that the people who love these men will

continue to love these men, defend these men, and think that, you know, Thoreau is

some kind of deep state trying to make them look bad type of, you know, whatever. They say so

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