Episode #56: Inside NSA, Part V--An Interview with Fran Fleisch, Acting Deputy Director of NSA

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🗓️ 20 December 2013

⏱️ 31 minutes

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In the final episode in our series, "Inside NSA: We Brought In a Recording Device So You Don't Have To," Benjamin Wittes interviews the agency's executive director--and now its acting deputy director--Fran Fleisch about openness and transparency in signals intelligence, the NSA's culture, and how the agency would respond to a major policy change from Congress.

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1:09.7	What is the mission imperative that the current authorities allow us to leverage to protect the
1:15.4	nation? And if there were a decision that would be made that would be have a different construct than
1:21.3	we currently have, how could we maintain that same flexibility? I think that there are things that
1:26.9	are under discussion that are different than how we currently do it, that would still, that would
1:31.3	be workable. General Alexander has shared that. The bottom line though is those decisions will be
1:37.0	made and then we will adhere to them faithfully.
1:39.5	I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the Law Fair Podcast Special Edition Part 5, The Last Part,
1:47.4	Inside NSA. You already know the drill. Bobby Chesney and I brought a recording device into
1:53.9	NSA and walked out with a bunch of podcast interviews. The last one was one I did myself without
2:00.7	Bobby, with Fran Fleisch. She's now the acting deputy director of an agency that's under
2:06.7	assault and undergoing an unprecedented opening up. She's been at NSA a long time. She came up
2:14.0	through the ranks there, entering as a Russian language linguist more than 30 years ago.
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