Welcome to this week's episode of Startups for the Rest of Us. I'm Rob Walling. This week, I have a great

conversation with Anar Bolset. If you don't recall, Aner Volset is my co-founder with Tiny Seed,

and he's also the founding partner of Discretion Capital, which is an advisory firm that advises

SaaS founders who are in, let's say, the $1 2 million and up AARR range when they decide that they

want to sell. And you need people who know what they're talking about, and Aner is one of them.

And the fun part about our conversation today is we bat around funding for bootstrappers.

And really specifically, there's been a couple conversations I've had over the past couple of

months that have gotten me thinking about talking about this on the show,

because obviously this funding has become much more viable for bootstrappers. It's not just bootstrap or venture path.

There's this whole thing in the middle that we talk about. Tiny Seeds is obviously part of that.

And I think there's still confusion and misconceptions. And it's just amorphous and often hard to understand what's going on and kind of some of the realities of it. And I think there's still confusion and misconceptions and it's just amorphous and often hard to

understand what's going on and kind of some of the realities of it. And so we spend this whole

episode batting around, hey, when should a bootstrapper think about raising funding? When should

they not? When is it a good fit? And we talk a little bit about terms and, you know, how much founders

should think about raising and just everything we're seeing. And the cool part is he and I have pretty different perspectives. I mean, I guess we share perspectives on a lot of things being,

you know, the co-founders of Tiny Seed. But I also have, you know, a lot of experience with other

angel investments that I made before Tiny Seed that are still around. And I see different examples

there. And he has experience with his discretion work and

even the companies that he started before Tiny Seed. So my hope is that it is helpful in

just providing a little more of a level set and some more thoughts on this topic. So with that,

let's dive into my conversation with Anar Volset.

Anar, thanks for joining me once again on startups for the rest of us.

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