Episode 554: The effect of emotional labor on relationships, gender, and race with Rose Hackman

Make Some Noise with Andrea Owen

Andrea Owen

Education, How To, Self-improvement

4.8 • 516 Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Rose Hackman is on the show this week! Rose is a journalist whose work on gender, race, labor, policing, housing, and the environment―published in The Guardian―has brought international attention to overlooked American policy issues, historically entrenched injustices, and complicated social mores. Rose’s book, Emotional Labor, is a journalistic deep dive in which she shares the stories of hundreds of women, tracing the history of emotional labor, exposing common manifestations of the phenomenon, and empowering us to forge pathways for evolution, justice, and change. Throughout our conversation, we often discussed emotional labor from the female perspective and explored its effect on race, class, relationships, and the workplace. If, after listening to our conversation, you’re intrigued and want to learn more, I encourage you to check out Rose’s book! In this episode, you’ll hear: Emotional labor: Rose describes what it is and looks like in different scenarios (4:18) How race, gender, and class unequally shape the load we carry (6:28) Rose answers, “Do you think women going through “the great divorce” is indirectly related to emotional labor?” (15:27) Our conversation moves to solutions, and we discuss some strategies for leveling the imbalances that contaminate our relationships, social circles, and households (30:47) Rose shares tools or rebuttals for when someone makes you feel as though the work you are doing is not real work (38:08) Resources: Private coaching with Andrea Rose's book is here Rose on Instagram Rose on TikTok Laura Danger’s episode on the division of labor https://andreaowen.com/podcast/554/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:29.9	People pretend they don't see emotional labor, but when emotional labor ceases to be done,
0:35.4	they're up in arms that it's not being done.
0:42.9	If you're on the phone to a customer care representative who is extremely rude and doesn't care about your problem, you're going to be really, really annoyed and say that that person's
0:47.7	not doing their job. That's emotional labor.
0:52.2	You're listening to Makes An Noise Podcast episode number 554 with guest Rose Hackman.
1:00.6	Welcome to Make Some Noise Podcast, your guide for strategies, tools, and insight to empower yourself.
1:12.4	I'm your host, Andrea Owen, Global Speaker, Entrepreneur, Life Coach since 2007,
1:17.7	an author of three books that have been translated into 18 languages and are available in 22
1:23.1	countries.
1:24.6	Each week, I'll bring you a guest or a lesson that will help you maximize unshakable
1:29.2	confidence, master resilience, and make some noise in your life. You ready? Let's go.
1:39.4	Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of the podcast. I am so glad that you are here.
1:43.8	Thank you so much for being here. I'm excited because today another episode of the podcast. I am so glad that you are here. Thank you so much for being here.
1:44.9	I'm excited because today's episode is the one I was talking about, was it last week, the big prize energy came out?
1:52.9	I believe that it was, or maybe it was the week before. But I mentioned in that episode that it was
1:58.1	inspired by a conversation I had with a journalist, and it was this lady.
2:02.7	So I cannot wait for you to hear this chat that I have with her, all the questions I have for her around her book called Emotional Labor.
2:10.8	I don't think that there's any of you who are going to be like, yeah, this isn't for me.
2:15.6	This isn't anything that I can relate to.
2:17.6	It's definitely I felt something that you would all really be interested in and enjoy hearing.
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