On this episode of Nurtural, for fans of HBO's award-winning and popular succession TV series,

which follows the Roy family as they buy for control of their media empire, here comes

a new book, Unscripted, The Epic Battle for a Media Empire, and the Redstone Family

Legacy.

And while the succession series is inspired by the Murdock family, Unscripted is the true

story of some of Redstone and the Redstone family as they wrestled for control of Paramount

Global, an empire that included Paramount, CBS, MTV, Nickelodeon, Showtime, and Simon

and Schuster.

Here to discuss their new book, I am really pleased to welcome my guests.

James B. Stewart, New York Times best-selling author and columnist for The New York Times,

in Rachel Abrams, reporter and senior producer for The New York Times Television documentary

series The New York Times presents.

James and Rachel, welcome and thank you both for joining me on Newtsworld.

Thank you for having us.

Yeah, great to be here.

I'm really curious.

How did you two decide to work together on Unscripted?

Well, Jim and I were both reporters at the times, but we actually had never met before,

but it turned out that we, at the height of the Me Too movement, had both gotten different

tips about what we ended up learning was the same story.

And that was the real reasons why Les Moonbes, the former head of CBS, was ousted from

the company.

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