Episode 543 Promo - The Iran Intervention (w/ Jeffrey Sachs)
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🗓️ 19 January 2026
⏱️ 8 minutes
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Economist & Columbia University professor Jeffrey Sachs returns to Bad Faith to discuss the protests in Iran and rising regional tensions, how western warhawks are framing the conflict, and what we should know about the history that led us here.
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Produced by Armand Aviram.
Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands).
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| 0:00.0 | Netanyahu 30 years ago came to power with the idea that there would be a greater Israel, |
| 0:07.0 | so-called, ruling over the Palestinian people, blocking anything even remotely resembling |
| 0:14.9 | a Palestinian state. And Netanyahu and his advisors said already 30 years ago in a document called Clean Break |
| 0:25.7 | that this maximalist policy, they didn't characterize it like that, I do, but the policy of |
| 0:33.6 | greater Israel would lead to Palestinian resistance. |
| 0:39.4 | And that Palestinian resistance would be supported by countries in the Middle East. |
| 0:45.4 | And that what Israel's policy should be is to attack and bring down any government in the Middle East that supports the Palestinian cause. |
| 0:58.8 | And we've been through nonstop war because another part of the clean break is that the United |
| 1:06.0 | States should do the dirty dealing in all of this. Israel will fight some of the time, but the United States |
| 1:12.7 | basically should fight all of the time. It should fund these overthrow operations. It should |
| 1:18.0 | fund the destabilization. It should fund the wars as necessary. So Netyao's been championing |
| 1:25.7 | many wars in the Middle East, basically targeting governments in the Middle East that support the Palestinian cause. |
| 1:36.2 | And famously, in 2001, we first heard of the list of seven desired wars in five years, which was a list that the U.S. government supposedly concocted in order to basically fight Israel's wars. |
| 1:54.0 | And that list included Syria, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Sudan, Somalia, and Libya. |
| 2:05.2 | So the idea was you have to take out any governments that support the Palestinian cause. |
| 2:12.6 | And the United States has been suckered or bribed or blackmailed or something into that business for |
| 2:21.1 | the last quarter century. And think about how many wars the United States has fought or |
| 2:27.9 | imbroglios that the United States has gotten into at this maximalist Israeli behest, the Iraq war. People should go to YouTube and |
| 2:39.8 | watch Netanyahu in the fall of 2002 saying how glorious a war in Iraq would be and how it would |
| 2:48.3 | change the Middle East. And in fact, he promised in the fall of 2002 you attack and bring down Saddam Hussein, |
| 2:56.6 | saying the young people of Iran are going to watch that and they're going to do the same regime change. |
| 3:04.6 | And then the story was, well, Iran is the mastermind, so that has to be brought down. |
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