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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 542: Autumn White, Scrupulosity OCD, Active Latter-day Saint

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8839 Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2022

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

My friend Autumn Brooke White bravely shares her 20+ year journey with undiagnosed scrupulosity. Autumn (now in her late 30s) shares the intrusive thoughts about worthiness that have been part of her life since her teenage years. Autumn talks about how she best navigated walking this road alone—not feeling safe to open up to others or realizing this was not a spiritual weakness. Autumn then shares, about two years ago, opening up to others (friends, Bishop) which led to a therapist with an understanding of scrupulosity resulting in an accurate diagnosis and a relatively short path to healing. If you are having thoughts of unworthiness, it may not be a spiritual weakness—it may be scrupulosity (or spiritual OCD) which attacks that is most precious to you. Listening to this podcast will help you. And if you want to be prepared to help others in your circle that have undiagnosed scrupulosity, this podcast will give you tools to see it in others and get them help. No one should live 20 years with undiagnosed scrupulosity. Thank you, Autumn, for being on the podcast. Great job. You are brave and courageous. Your story will help so many. ** Please Check Out My New Book called "Listen, Learn and Love: Improving Latter-day Saint Culture". Link Below. Chapter 7 is about Scrupulocity ** Deseret Book: https://deseretbook.com/p/listen-learn-love Amazon: amazon.com/dp/1462139566

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.

0:08.6

This guest is going, this podcast is going to focus on scrupulosity.

0:14.9

That's something we've touched on before in the 500 plus episodes.

0:18.9

Autumn White is going to share her story with Scrupulosity.

0:22.9

But if you want to go deeper and listen to other podcasts about this subject, there's

0:27.3

probably three that I'd recommend.

0:30.3

And I'll put a link to all our podcasts around Scrupulosity in the show notes.

0:34.3

But episode 493 is the last one we did around Scrupulosity, and that was with Taylor Kirby, who wrote a book on Scrupulosity. And our guest here today has actually read that book. Two podcasts we did from someone I consider a clinical expert on Scrupulosity is Dr. Deborah McClendon.

0:57.8

She did episode 336 and episode 191.

1:02.0

She is, her practice is focused around that.

1:06.0

And I'll put a link to the book I wrote.

1:09.1

The most recent book I wrote is Improving Latter-day Saint Culture.

1:11.6

And Chapter 7 is called Overcoming Scrupululosity and that talks about our own family story. Our youngest son Ben

1:17.1

bravely shares his story with scrupulosity and his journey to find healing and the people

1:22.7

that came into life to do that. So Autumn, welcome to the podcast. Thanks for Jordan for having me. I'm excited.

1:29.8

I'm excited to be here. It's very brave for anybody to walk into my home, which Autumn has done,

1:35.7

or join via Zoom and share their story. Autumn is in her late 30s. She's married. She has a daughter.

1:43.7

She grew up in Idaho. She's an active

1:46.2

member of the church. And unlike my son, who was diagnosed at around 19, Autumn was diagnosed

1:54.3

just a year ago in her late 30s. And the first signs of this came into her life in her teenage years.

2:01.8

So she has been walking the road with scrupulosity for two decades plus without a diagnosis.

2:09.4

And some of you may be walking a similar road or have people in your life that have undiagnosed scrupulosity.

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