Welcome back to Startup for the rest of us. It's me, your host, Rob Walling. Thanks for joining me

this week. This is episode 533 of the podcast. And today we're talking about life profitability

after two exits with 80 P&R. I give his full bio in a minute, but he is a multi-time founder

with multiple exits under his belt. He has written a book

called Life Profitability, A New Measure of Entrepreneurial Success. He has talked to the talk and walked

the walk. He's been a microcom speaker. He's a tiny seed mentor, and he has a lot of experience

and success under his belt. And today we dig in to, you know, more the personal

side, the life side of building a startup. A lot of what my wife, Sherry Walling, talks about

on her podcast, Zen Founder. It's the startup family life and the balance of those three things.

And in this book, 80, looks a lot at how to make it all work. Before we

dive into that, I wanted to remind you, in case you haven't checked it out, the microconf

podcast. And every week, we either release an episode of microcomf on air, which is our video

live stream show. We release that in audio format, or we do microconf refresh episodes where we go back

to a previous microconf and we take the talk and pull the audio from it. And then I add an intro to it

for context. And we put that out on the feed. And we've had a lot of interest in this show. And if you

haven't checked it out, just go to any podcatcher search for microconf should be your

number one result and it's nice i i subscribe to it myself and it's a fun reminder even the talks that

i saw in person which i guess technically is all of them because i attended all the microcalfs

but even those talks that i saw in person, it's nice to be

reminded and refreshed on the topics and the ideas that are put forth. And it's a pretty low,

it's a low investment because it's audio. And of course, you can always click through in the show

notes and watch the video if you do want to see the visuals. So microconf podcast, if you

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